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2010 Edit

RE: Keith Article Edit

Excellent, good idea. There probably should have been a redirect anyway. Good to have you here.

Thanks~ --Five Dog TalkRead 11:32, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Francis references Edit

Hrm.... I think those .wav files may be considered illegal, as I believe those are copyrighted, and I do not think they are under the fair use thingy. Crowbar 15:58, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Oh. Okay, sorry I thought you uploaded them. My bad. --Crowbar 16:09, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

M4 Edit

An M4 is a carbine rifle, very similar in appearance and use to an M16. More info can be found here Hope this helps. GeneralOwnage55 The Message Box 12:01, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Apostrophe Edit

Louis is not a name that applies to one specific person in the general population's mind, like Dickens, therefore he should have an extra "s" after the apostrophe. I suppose you could interpret it either way, but that's the rule of thumb that I've always gone by. Nightmirage 20:43, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Mods Edit

Alright, think I should make it "Map" instead? Jo the MartenMini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 14:02, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Hey you're taking Charge, man! Edit

Have you modified my Article on The City yet (Suicide Blitz)? When you do, then I'll get started on Stadium Finale either Tonight or Tomorrow. 22:19, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Get your Asses over here and HELP! Edit

Well, as you can see from the To-Do List, I've taken on the role of creating a Page about Carriers. I suppose I could use Graffiti sources an' shit, but where do you think I should start looking for Info? 22:27, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Gender neutrality / agreement Edit

I wondered if anyone would have a problem with his/her when refering to the Survivors. Sorry to offend, Sera. I struggled with this, too, but "them" is actually not correct, either, as it is plural. It refers back to one survivor, so it should be singular. How has this been handled in the past? I just used "him/her" and then used "him" for simplicity. Drumkit62 20:56, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Splitting all Uncommon Infected into its own article (as "Uncommon Infected") Edit

After looking at the page you made, I must say it actually seems like a good idea, I don't know if the infoboxes would be necessary though, considering almost all of the Uncommon Infected have the same health and their attacks are pretty much the same. My only concern is that if we split them, both articles w=could end up a little shorter than they should be.

Overall, I think it would be nice, but we need to hear what others have to say first.

Oh, and thank you for the kind words :) DeathBlade182 22:17, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Regarding Military article's gallery Edit

I totally understand where you were coming from with the original layout. However, it made it so the article didn't have the Contents box. I also thought it just looked really strange being text then pictures then more text. I don't know, I can see pros and cons of both layouts. Nightmirage 02:31, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, I don't mind at all. I didn't know you could do that. Now I do! And I think it's a good compromise. =) Nightmirage 02:43, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

I ever tell you about the Time my buddy Keith fell off the Roller Coaster? Edit

I was just reading in Louis's Profile, and it says in a Note that only he and Ellis talk about Survivors besides themselves and their Team-mates (Ellis: Keith, Louis: The Guys at the Office). But Rochelle also mentions she "Should have stayed with Jacob" on a Rare Occasion. May need to be Noted somewhere? 22:03, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

What do y'all make of this? Edit

There has been some Community Graffiti noticed in Campaigns such as Suicide Blitz, for example, in the Safe Area of the First Level, there can be Graffiti found written (possibly) by Francis, and more stating the Number of Days the Original Survivors have spent in the Apartments. You think it's worth me mentioning? 23:15, June 5, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Re: Site Notice Edit

I'm gonna take a break for 3 seasons and attend school in the spring. I've decided to spend this time getting a job so I can actually pay for college, and also work on getting my license so I can get my butt to college. Then I've got an SAT to take in October so no time for college now. Gotta get these other things out of the way first. =D But thank! Jo the MartenMini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 18:40, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Re: Raiden95 Edit

Yeah, I was about to warn him, but Jo beat me to it >__> DeathBlade182 02:53, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

<3 I love you too DeathBlade. Jo the MartenMini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 02:55, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Regarding Katana vs Machete in Dead Center poster Edit

Well, it could've been an oversight. The thing Ro is holding is so much longer than a machete. You even have Coach as reference. Can we put something along the lines of "Machete of Katana"? That works, doesn't it?--With care and happiness, Supermutantslayer450' ROAR 02:20, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yep, you're right. I finally see why I thought it was a Katana: the machete is longer in the picture than in the game. In the game, it is roughly forearm length. In the picture, it's leg length, which is how long a katana is.--With care and happiness, Supermutantslayer450' ROAR 07:21, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ummmm Edit

Someone's mad at you and completely vandalized the grenade launcher page. I'm just letting you know they didn't say nice things and was unregistered. If you know anyone who would do this, please let someone like the admin know. Thanks. TheBlueGriffin 03:09, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

francis's hatred of everything Edit

yes, just check the cut lines

it's between "Come on, this tunnel is a little creepy." and "Riverside's to our right." in the cut lines

did you find it?

The Sewers pictures Edit

well its l4d2 with new skins, new pictures and new names and new lines. i seen that before, in a GFJasonX video :

Re: Pros and Cons on melee weapons Edit

I posted on Flak's talk page... but that's just my take on the situation, we may need more opinions to actually reach an agreement. DeathBlade182 23:24, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

Melee Weapons Pros and Cons Edit

Guess you are probably right about the melee weapons; it just seemed like a good idea at the time. I would agree now with deleting them (Flak88 01:43, August 7, 2010 (UTC))

'ey don't that feel good? Edit

Look at you with all the answers! Never saw the info on [sic] so I thought it was a slight coding error to be removed from the page lest it leave a mark. I guess they was right placin' their trust in you as a Janitor! Chris Thorpe 19:21, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Steam Edit

I was wondering what your Steam name might be. Jo the MartenMini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 16:47, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

OK now, what the hell are these things? Edit

I noticed you working on some new Pages such as Uncommon Infected. I think I may be able to offer small services to them Pages if you wish. Chris Thorpe 16:57, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

youtube Edit

i just saw your youtube account. i love it and i loved that dark carnival finale video.

ok Zombiehunter2010 13:04, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Regarding CEDA image Edit

No, i didn't fix up myself and it was not part of a Valve update... I got the image from the Facebook group... so i'm pretty sure nobody has it licensed or copyrighted or anything like that, if that's what your wondering...

Shoot that sunnuva bitch in the back! Edit

Sera, I noticed that you removed my comment about Sniper Rifles killing Fallens in one shot. But I have done this a few times. Can you try it as well just to confirm for me? Force some Fallens in the Passing via these Commands and some Jimmy Gibbs Jr.s in The Atrium (Must be the Atrium) and try with a Sniper/Hunting Rifle. Because sometimes I've killed these 2 Uncommons with Scoped Weapons in one shot or seen Ellis (Who favours Scoped Weapons) do exactly this. Chris Thorpe 15:01, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

I haven't tested it on Realism Mode yet, but I will be testing it and other Sniper Rifles when I get the Chance. Chris Thorpe 17:48, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Reply to message Edit

I thought having achievements for the apropriate topic helps alot and would be a useful acet to the pages. I have had afew people stating that scrolling through the entire achievement page is rather annoying and that it would be easier to have achievemnts on the desired pages asociated with their topic aswell. So i thought i would dedicate an evening to it. But if you disagree, then i guess i understand.

Cool, that makes sense as it won't bulk up the page to much but still has the useful info. Sorry i didn't think of that. : )

Smeliot mycrosoft 19:34, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

Speak up, Francis, your voice got all muffled from your head being so far up your ass. Edit

Couple things, Sera, as I believe you're the go-to guy for me. First off, I made heavy additions to the Plot in The Sacrifice Comic's Part 2, but I think it needs links. I'm assuming you can handle that no problem as I tend to either over-link stuff or not link enough things. Secondly, you still have "Pages I'm working on" on your User Page, despite those Pages already being made official additions to the Wiki. Might be time to remove that? Chris Thorpe 22:31, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Regarding Carriers vs. ImmunityEdit

Since it seems as if you're one of the major caretakers for the Carrier article, I just wanted to get your permission to delete the Carrier vs. Immunity section. The user who created it (shawty) said that it should be remove do to it being misleading, so I just want to get consent from a more prominent user to do so.Whachamacallit 15:02, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Oops! Edit

Yea, sorry for accidentally deleting that picture in The Barge... Thanks for fixing it! I`ll just stick to the smaller edits and let you admins do the bigger stuff... :P 06abrahb 05:52, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Edit

I must have missed that. Why do people talk about that stuff here? Doesnt matter I guess just more edits for real editors right?:)Sniperteam82308 03:53, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Thats what I did guess double vandal post or something. Holy shit mabey a horde of them are coming!!!Sniperteam82308 03:57, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

why are you saying my pages are old???

Ohhhh. Edit

I finally get that box on your user page about Bill and the replacements. Well I kind of got it, but now I really get for sure. :) It's pretty funny when you get it. TheBlueGriffin 18:02, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Creating Infoboxes for Detour Ahead Edit

Hey! Just wondering if you know how to create those infoboxes for the custom campaign i've been editing, Detour Ahead . I'm trying to do the same thing like in any other campaign where it has the chapter picture and then the clickable links to the other chapters... Can you help? 06abrahb 05:34, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

the tank does have 6000 health, its not hard to spot that after you have completed a chapter and see the damage done to it. hunter1178 UK

Zoey Notes Edit

Hey, just wondering, the edit done by SAmaster01 to Zoey's notes, it doesn't make sense because the team of survivors doesn't arrive to Georgia until after the comic takes place, not before... does it make sense?

He also stated that in the Green Flu article, "It is most likely that rural areas were the first to become infected. Animals were probably the first to contract the disease, which explains the piles of dead cows on rural campaigns such as Blood Harvest." when in fact wasn't the original victim possibly at Mercy Hospital in the city of Fairfield as stated several times?

THANKS for fixing that up! I wanted to fix it but i thought it's just something i better leave up to you and make sure I was thinking correctly... :) 06abrahb 07:13, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry if i suck at editing and stuff i dont notice my info being already posted.

Bill Notes Edit

Hey again... i was just wondering,,, is what Spriggan657 said about Bill accurate? Bill undergoing surgery at Mercy Hospital? in the comic, it shows the outside of a veterans hospital not exactly Mercy Hospital... what do you think? a possibility? 06abrahb 02:44, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

Admin Edit

Hey are you an admin here if not you should be!Sniperteam82308 16:58, October 17, 2010 (UTC)

So just wondering did you become one or not because you had five or six supporters and noone against you. Hope you did!:) Sniperteam82308 02:56, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

He only has four supporters at the moment. You need a minimum of five to become admin. Jo the MartenMini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 04:25, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

Cut content Edit


i am working on a page for "Cut content" and i was wondering if this is something that would be accepted or just deleated by you or another "high-rank" wikier i would really like to make this page but i thought i should make sure it wouldnt be cut itself Hengara 16:35, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Well i allready wrote it in Mic Word, and i separated it into "pickups" like the riot shield, Reused such as the fallen survivor, anything infected related like hunters ability to turn invisible, and speculated, like the infected dog and electric fence. but Jo allready stated he does not think we need it, so i guess not :P Hengara 18:04, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Quote Templates Edit

Hey Sera! I know you keep reducing my quote templates from 3 lines to 1 line... how do you do that? I keep on inserting the Template: Quote and it looks alright but it keeps showing up on 3 lines instead of 1 and then you keep on having to fix it. Do you know why this happens and what I can do so that it appears correctly? 06abrahb 08:10, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, never mind, I figured it out :P I just went into the source mode and deleted the spaces, now it's all good. :) 06abrahb 08:57, October 24, 2010 (UTC)


Assault rifle - cadenced firing Edit

I'd like to appeal your deletion of my edit regarding the subject line.

I could not understand your rationale for doing so.

How does the fact that a real life weapon is modelled in-game and players can [and should] use it in-game in the same way as it is used in real life be grounds for irrelevance?

The whole point of my edit was to amplify the logic appearing in the main body of the assault rifle section [viz.] the need for ammo conservation, and to do so by referring to exemplary real world best practice when using weapons of this type.

Cheers Trowzerkoff 01:04, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Well I thought there was to be no real life info and shouldnt that have gone under tactics or something?Sniperteam82308 01:13, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

[My reply copied over from my Talk page] Thanks for your response Sera404. I'm sorry but this getting even more confusing. I freely admit that I'm new to this L4D wiki lark but am keen-as to learn how to improve my tyro efforts. But to do this I need to know the rules and how they are applied in the case of this particular wiki in the context of this particular episode so that in future I don't get handed a cavalier raw prawn for my troubles.

Firstly, my contribution was initially deleted on the basis that it was "irrelevant" and this is now being justified by saying that what I contributed "isn't good". Surely the tactics used in real life are perfectly relevant and "good" for players of a R18 graphic violence game using a weapon expressly modeled on one that exists in real life? It's a common or garden M16 - not a Klongon space blaster in zero gravity conditions after all. [In point of fact, my deleted contribution was made in utmost good faith and was based on my own military training and service [frontline infantry - and I have participated in firefights] and the cadenced firing was precisely how my mates and I use the assault rifle in L4D - e.g. during the finale of Mercy Hospital - and this mode of firing works as it says on the tin in both real and game contexts.] Surely the player community - which this wiki is presumably there to serve - would benefit from such applied knowledge?

Secondly, who is the "we" referred to in the last part of your answer? Are deletion decisions relating to core content made by an editorial panel with a majority ruling and that is the "we" to which you refer? Your answer might also be understood to mean that the "we" refers to readers of the wiki, to which I humbly point to my line of argument above: the average reader of R18 gamining wiki might well be more than modestly interested in what I had to say. So why not let the wiki users on the Clapham Bus make the call - if they [the customers] think my contribution is rubbish, bad or irrelevant then let them delete, question, modify or improve it: isn't that what a wiki is supposed to all about? To reiterate my point: some elucidation of the rules and how were applied in the case of this wiki in this particular matter would be very useful.

PS: If there's a rule that says "no real life info" [as suggested by Sniperteam82308 above - and even an experienced hand like him doesn't seem sure about this protocol] then fine please confirm this - but then let's apply this rule rigorously to the entire wiki and purge all "real life" fact, insights and content from its pages.Trowzerkoff 09:05, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Hi Sera 404 - Just a word of thanks mate for your response made on my talk page to the above issue: it's much appreciated. All's Sir Garnet from my side on this now. Please don't bother to revisit my contribution but bin it - permanently.

Naturally this episode has raised a serious concern in my mind about the quality of the self-generated contributions I've made since I first joined about a month ago. So what I'll do is to give you an undertaking to track them back, apply a rigorously conservative approach and ruthlessly sponge the beggars out. [I'll leave the responsive contributions since they are predominantly minor, fragmented editorial edits of opportunistically random items.] Thanks once again mate - happy gaming!! Trowzerkoff 16:53, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Edit

Hey Sera! first congrats on getting the admin job here on wiki, you most definitely deserved it! :) also thanks for fixing up the spacing on the Left 4 Dead Soundtrack page. An edit was done earlier and all the spacing and some titles were a bit messy, i tried to fix it as best i can but you fixed it the best! Thanks! 06abrahb 21:30, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again for fixing up Whitaker's Gun Shop page! :) How did you fix that spacing? I tried doing that through the source code view but couldn't get it to work the way you got it to... oh well but thanks again for fixing it up! (sorry if there are several mistakes that needed to be cleaned up) 06abrahb 06:28, December 26, 2010 (UTC)

Everyone my ass. Edit

Well, everyone sure does have lines for all the campaigns. But Bill has no campaign-specific lines in Crash Course, and Zoey only has a "Get to the farmhouse!" and "I called the truck" for Blood Harvest. Francis is the only survivor who can be guaranteed to talk alot in any campaign.

1337_n00b November 9, 2010, 15:27 GMT+?

Well his description isn't "cocky and loud" for no reason. With that said, I don't think saying Francis has the most lines is really saying much. If anything it's almost redundant to say. Now if he were shy and quiet and yet somehow had the most lines, then we might have ourselves an interesting topic. But pointing out the fact that Francis, being the loudest and most talkative member of the team, has the most lines is like pointing out that Bill must have been in the military because of his clothing. Jo the MartenMini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 12:39, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
Duh. Well, that's true. In fact, i'm more onto pointing out that Zoey is practically mute as a fish in Blood Harvest, same going for Louis in Dead Air... But that's pretty much stated in my No Mercy edit.
I think i have just owned myself.
1337_n00b November 9, 2010, 15:48 GMT+?

Userboxes Edit

I was wondering if you could just tell me how userboxes work? I try, but it's kind of confusing.

- User:Brown Clown

Thanks and opinion about the new page... Edit

Hey Sera! It's been awhile since i've spoke to you... did you fix that infobox template location color thing? If it was you, that was SOO fast and so i say THANKS!!! :D and by the way, what do you think of that new page i created? any thoughts? 06abrahb 06:49, November 22, 2010 (UTC) I fixed them. Yeah, I'm still around. :B Jo the MartenMini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 07:54, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

OH! you fixed them?? SWEET!! THANKS!!!! :D and by the way Jo, what;s your opinion about the new page i created? any thoughts or comments? 06abrahb 07:59, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Seems fine enough. I dunno if I'm happy with the name, but the page it self seems alright. Jo the MartenMini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 08:13, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Regarding the four Left 4 Dead Survivor pages... Edit

Hey Sera! I am not aware that I have been removing those

codings for the paragraphs. I know that's what they are there for but if I have removed them, it was not intentional. Every time a contributor has added last names to the survivors, I or Jo would immediately undo the edit, I think the reason I may have accidently removed those codings would be because me and Jo would undo the edit at the same time therefore she would remove the edit and I perhaps removed a previous edit which may have been those

. Again, I apologize if I have been removing them as that is not my intention and I'll try and be more careful to what edits are being undone. 06abrahb 19:04, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Hey Sera, I just saw the spaces that somehow got inserted into The Passing page. I NEVER did that!!! I only added in the link! What's going on??? How is it possible for me to be doing this?? It doesn't make any sense to me!! 06abrahb 18:03, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

I'm using Google Chrome... 06abrahb 00:46, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Lol, i know what you meant so its all good :P so what do you recommend? I noticed it seems other people too have been deleting your < p >. why is that? This seems like a real pain for you having to fix and redo everything... 06abrahb 03:14, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

Auto Shotgun edit Edit

Just for the record I added the following to the notes of the auto-shotgun page directly prior to making my account: In Left 4 Dead 2 while reloading from empty, the gun can still be fired even before a round has been loaded into the firing chamber (also applies to combat shotgun). This does not happen in Left 4 Dead as clicking to fire while reloading from empty would start the cocking animation to load a round into the chamber.

P.S. Is there any terms I should change to better mirror the rest of the article or to make the statement clearer?Maverick 88 04:46, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

2011 Edit

ciao sera Edit

Ciao sera perche' mi cancelli le campagne non capisco --Andy999717 20:27, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

Dead Moon Page Edit

Hey Sera, what is this page all about? It looks weird and has what looks like random stuff and info on it. Can you take a look? Thanks! 06abrahb 05:05, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Steam Edit

Get onliiiinneeee. >:( Jo the MartenMini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 23:31, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Help Edit

I just received a warning on my Talk Page saying I will be blocked for 24 hours. So I checked the Guidelines & Policies, and I still couldn't find out what I did wrong. :-( Is there any possibility you could tell me? MJS 22:05, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Sensorship Edit

Dont this wiki have some sort of blocking/sensorship program? i mean at least once a week i see a change to some wikipage where some person delete a lot of info and replaces it with sexual jokes or something similar?

today i saw some guy had changed mostly every description of survivors relationship with francis to a two-line "because they all hate him" thing.
isnt it possible to make a filter which makes any edit containing sertain words undone? and wouldn't it be possible to make a filter so that only Admins could delete everything on a page?

i know you probably noticed this stuff too, im just asking if there really is anything to do about it other than to fix every time it happens~.

Hengara 00:46, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah i know it's not hard to reverse, but IF it was possible i was thinking something like blocking out any use of the words "pussy", "dick", and so on, at least from the wikipages, because we wouldn't need to use those words on a decent page anyhow. but if its not possible i suppose it doesnt matter 18:09, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

Issue Warning Edit

Hey Sera, can you please issue a warning to this User:Brewstone as he has been vandalizing the entire wiki and i've been trying to undo and restore the original content. Thanks! 06abrahb 10:18, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Francis comic relief? Nick in the military? Edit

Hey Sera, just wanted your thought and input, someone edited Francis and said "or perhaps just a personality quirk added for comic relief" do you think it belongs here and should be said?

Thanks! 06abrahb 02:51, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Sera, sorry to bug you again but just wanted your thought and input, someone edited Nick and said he may have been in the military, do you think it belongs here and should be said?

Thanks! 06abrahb 02:51, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Ellis Edit

Why do you always delete my posts that I edit on Ellis?

I'm sorry.

hope this gets your attention Edit

Hey Sera,

I tried sending a message to wiki - no avail. On the images section of this wikia is "gothic april", apparently naked from the waist up, taking a photo of herself. She looks young, and is acting it - naked photos like that never disappear from the web, no matter how much money is thrown at the holders. (Ask Paris Hilton)

L4D has had enough flak from the "International parents of banning everything" without the potential fire of a naked minor on site. Please get rid of it.

Kind regards,


Francis page edits Edit

I'm sorry about the Francis page. I don't know why it removes the tags; I don't remove them-- I don't use the Source edit. Maybe you can edit it since it says in there "simplies" instead of "simplifies," which essentially was all I was trying to fix. I don't understand why the tags are removed when I edit it, though Jordan Woolf 15:44, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, even in source mode, in which the paragraph tags don't show still, it still removes in them in an edit. I understand what tags do, so I hope you know I don't remove them. For some reason, when I edit it, it just remvoes them. How many other pages have

tags? Because as far as I can tell, it's just the Francis page, but I'm sure there are others and I'm sure it has to do with compatibility view or somethingJordan Woolf 15:52, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I thought I undid that last edit, since I was just trying to see why it kept removing the tags for me. Any suggestions or any idea why it's removing them? Jordan Woolf 15:56, February 24, 2011 (UTC)

Nope, I intend no offense whatsoever at all because I love editing on here, but yep, I am familiar with all Web tags! Thanks! But I couldn't figure out why only a few pages had them. I have been using Internet Explorer 8, yeah. Is that the problem? Jordan Woolf 17:21, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Blog Post on 25th February in 2011, 57 days before Portal 2's release Edit

Hi Sera, there came a blog post on 25th February saying things like Favourite NPC results, "most anticipated L4D1 map" and more. Should we update the Template:Blog Post sooner or later? I'd be happy to have it updated! Breakin'Benny 11:00, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

EDIT: Ready to do that? Then help doing it! Breakin'Benny 19:10, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Hi Edit

Hi I just noticed that on the Rescue Vehicles of No Mercy the helicopter is owned by TRS-TV. So the chopper is most likely the fifth chopper of the chanel. Also when I tried to move the page News 5 Chopper to News Chopper 5 I couldnt do it. Can you do it? Left4Deadseries FAN 09:08, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Acoun.. Edit

You can delete my witch acount Left4Deadseries FAN 17:02, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

The second acount (Left4DeadFan) or whatever it is. About the second account its not mine and I realy dont care at all. Left4Deadseries FAN 05:22, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Janitor Edit

Hey, and once I get this sorted out with the tags, how does one become something like a janitor. I only typically edit for grammatical errors in here and spend most my free time doing this and would love to be recognized, not as an admin per se, but as a janitor at least. Thank you! Jordan Woolf 17:25, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I appreciate the help, both with pointing out that somehow I kept removing thetags so I didn't do it any further and for giving me the link for the janitorial request. I hope I have your support, Sera! Jordan Woolf 05:12, February 28, 2011 (UTC)
So, just out of curiosity, how long does the process for the requests going through take? I'm honestly just wondering, not trying to expedite it 19:10, March 3, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Edit

Thanks for deleting my other acounts. I didnt have multiple acount because I wanted to break the rules. At first when I loged in I forgot to also put the "Remember this login on my computer" Left4Deadseries FAN 14:10, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

O,......................K Edit

Why is everyone accusing my of picking a fight. What did a do delete a page to death. Seriusly wha thappened. Cause I have no clue. Left4Deadseries FAN 14:53, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Not mine Edit

Sera that acount wasn't writen by me. Someone alse is most likely using my name. How can someone do that, its not right and its not fair. Left4Deadseries FAN 15:11, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

Wel Edit

If you know that those acounts arn't mine ( the Left4DeadFan was not created ON my new acount those 2 are diferent) then why harass my and not the other guy who is causing trouble. Just leave me alone. Left4Deadseries FAN 19:12, February 28, 2011 (UTC)

My $0.02 Edit

Hey there, I have one concern to raise to you. I like how the wiki appears in such, but I'm afraid that almost every page is a wall-of-text. Some examples of this I have noticed have been that the Relations with other characters sections can be quite lengthy. If some user(s) would be willing to go and create more subpages with admins approval, of course to relieve our poor eyes of the strain, I would be happy to help. Razldazlchick 08:05, March 7, 2011 (UTC)

12th March in 2011, 19 days till Portal 2's release Edit

Hey Sera404, there just came a blog post saying things like Follow the Liter, Scavange on original campaigns and other things on the blog. Would you mind updating the blog post sooner or later? Breakin'Benny 23:30, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

a Left 4 Dead 3 Edit

Hey is There going to be a Left 4 Dead 3

There will be, after the last DLC is out. PS: Don't forget to use Signature when writing on for example talk pages or no one will know who wrote it! Breakin'Benny 16:21, March 24, 2011 (UTC)

Update just arrived with exploits fixed etc. Edit

There just came a new update that fixed some exploits in the L4D2 campaigns. If you please Sera404, update the Blog Post for Left 4 Dead 2 while I'll deal with the updates for it. Breakin'Benny 18:22, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

British English usage Edit

I've noticed many of the pages on here are written in British English, even though it's an American videogame; therefore, shouldn't it be written in American English. Without checking in with you first, I have been changing British phrases and spellings to American spelling and style instead because Left 4 Dead is American! It's okay for me to change British English to American, right? Like "Choc-a-block" to "packed" and "whilst" to "while"

Jordan Woolf 18:55, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

Well, while I try to avoid over-Americanize the page (are you yourself not American, by any chance?), it's okay if I change ridiculous British phrases like "choc-a-bloc," which I had to look up, to things like "Packed"? I'll be sure to try to keep it universal English, but it's like on the Wikipedia page on Degrassi, where because it's a page on a Canadian TV show, they made me revert any Americanizations back to Canadian English, and I assumed it would be the same in here for an American videogame

Jordan Woolf 01:35, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. Yeah, I guess this and Wikipedia aren't exactly the same. But, yep, I'm American and I've been reverting weird British phrases to, what I assumed is, more universally known phrases. If there's not a big opposition to it, I will change British spelling to American spelling and especially things like "whilst" to "while." I'm American, and if the creator is American, too, and the game is American, then I will try not to over-Americanize it, but I will make it more U.S. spelling than not. Thanks, Sera

Jordan Woolf 15:19, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

A blog post that came 3 days after Portal 2 came out Edit

Well, holy duck Sera404. There just came a blog post asking stuff like Co-op section of Portal 2 plus Tier 1 and Tier 2 weapons unpredictably placed in the 1st and the 2nd map, I hope you don't mind updating the blog post for Left 4 Dead 2.v Breakin'Benny 20:49, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

PC or 360 user? Edit

Hey Sera, I just want to confirm and see if your a 360 Left 4 dead user or a PC user. I'm trying to add people for the xbox if that interesst you so I can have good teammate and good players to play with.EarlyExecuter 15:28, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism spree on Wikia Edit

Please read w:c:finalfantasy:Forum:Vandalising Spree on Wikis. SiPlus 10:21, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Adding you Edit

Hey im adding you on Steam :) I need friends to play with. I just go the PC version of Left 4 Dead 1 and 2 yesterday so accept the request :D EarlyExecuter 13:56, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

steam name Edit

Hey whats your steam name? I was reading your profile and everything but i cant seem to find you. 14:14, May 1, 2011 (UTC) Opss pardon me, i just realized that im not logged in. Its EarlyExecuter.

Apologies Edit

Hey Sera. My little brother ended up making an account on the wiki to fool around and see what can be changed. I stopped him for the sake of this site. Anyways, I'll be taking over his account from now on and posting things of actual interesst. Reason's I'm sending this MSG is to apologise for my little brothers behavior. Pardon him and pardon me for getting in the way. I joined the community and this will be the account I'm using. Letting you know ahead of time. I also saw that my brother asked you if you were a PC or Xbox 360 player. Good news is that we got the PC version of Left 4 Dead 1 and 2 not to long ago and playing alone is not at fun as it should be. Alright well, take a look at the newly made profile page for information about me. Add me on Steam or give me your steam name in the e-mail adress on my profile and I'll add you as soon as possible. If you play seriously then I'm willing to listen to anything, I take things seriously when needed to be taken to that point. Alright, leave a MSG or just ingor this one. Either way the main subject is saying sorry for my brothers behavior. Have a good day Sera. EarlyExecuter 18:20, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

RE:Just a request Edit

I'm not trying to start a fight, but some choose to undo my edits and substitute there own uninformed opinion.

(Thedeerhunter 04:32, May 4, 2011 (UTC))

Update from May 6, also my birthday Edit

Hello Sera404, there just came an update for Left 4 Dead 2 on the same day as my birthday. Please update the Blog Post template for L4D2 if you please, I've taken care of the Updates page for L4D2. Have a very nice day! Breakin'Benny 20:18, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Another update.. again Edit

Looks like we've got Hunting Party now, guess it's time to update the Blog Post for L4D2 again. Breakin'Benny 17:58, June 17, 2011 (UTC)

Another lovely update Edit

The update came in July 1, which from July 2 is yesterday. If you please Sera, update the Blog Post. Breakin'Benny 15:45, July 2, 2011 (UTC)

Newcomer Edit

Hi i am new and I edited the witch because they are alot of theories of why the witch cries all the time.

Gamma Venom 567 July 3, 2011

We're not interested in theories, though. We want facts. Jo the MartenMini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 17:27, July 4, 2011 (UTC)

Another Blog Post from October 7, update it Edit

There just came another Blog Post, Sera404. Mind updating it to the Gib Fest, results of playing games on phones and L4D1 maps in L4D2? Breakin'Benny 12:29, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Main Page Tweaks Edit

Hello, my name is Nic and I'm a member of the Wikia Content Team. Just wanted to let you know that within the next few days a sales campaign will be running on here and that as a result, your main page will need some minor tweaks. The main page will need to display both a left column and a right column with neither column taking up the whole content area. This is so that the right column can properly justify the common ads on Wikia which variate in size - one is a 300x250 ad and one is a 300x600 ad. These ads are found throughout Wikia,so it's nothing new that is being forced upon you. This will also push the content on your right hand column down a little. It is my home and intention that we can work together to find a solution that works for the both of us. I will work on re-tweaking your main page on a test wiki and then show you what I have and we can go from there. - Wagnike2 16:57, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

  • You guys have a complex main page to work with, I have tried to remain as true as I can with maintaining the integrity of your Wiki, and I know it's not perfect, but it's as close as I could get. Please let us know if we can go ahead and change it to this . - Wagnike2 22:24, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
  • We went ahead and put the new main page online, you are free to change the old page back as you see fit. But it will likely be borked with the ad on there. However, that is up to you. We made attempts to work with you in a timely fashion, but the sales campaign had to go live today. - Wagnike2 18:11, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
I find it kind of funny. I've got nearly 350 pixels worth of space for ads on my monitor, and you want to place the ads in what little space we have to work. It's not bad enough we have to put up with a third of that space being taken up by poorly designed photo histories and other pointless widgets. I don't work for Wikia, so I don't know what you guys have to go through, but you're making things extremely difficult to work with. Almost like pulling teeth. You use to be better, when you followed the standard MediaWiki format. But this new thing was a failure since its launch. I'll be willing to work with you to find a space in the main page for an ad. Since this is a free service, ads are to be expected. But your methods of treating your users like caged animals has to stop. A new update needs to be implemented. Or the old way needs to come back. One or the other. This is ridiculous. Jo the MartenMini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 03:48, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Excellent edits. You have many edits in this wiki.

Super Saiyan Vegetto 04:28, November 5, 2011 (UTC)


I've found this wiki particularly useful in some respects and want to provide a big witch-killing tip I didn't see listed under "Other Witch-killing tactics". The page is locked from editing, so I was hoping an admin/sysop might temporarily unlock/grant editing powers, or just add this tip themselves to the page in bold.

In L4D2, if you encounter a witch and have access to a molotov AND gas can: toss the gas can near enough to the witch that, if ignited, the witch will catch fire. Then, throw your molotov near enough to the gas can that it will ignite the can BUT NOT THE WITCH. If you do this, the witch will catch fire without agroing the player, will wander aimlessly, and may be shot at without drawing her ire.

A similar result may be achieved with other combinations, such as: 2 gas tanks (one directly/indirectly ignited), a propane tank (indirectly ingnited) and a molotov, a propane tank (indirectly ignited) and a gas can. I do not recommend trying to directly ignite a propane tank1 to indirectly ingnite a propane tank2 or a gas can.

What is Vile? 20:55, November 8, 2011 (UTC)What is Vile?

2012 Edit

German Left 4 Dead Wiki Edit

Hey! 1. Sorry for my bad englisch. 2. I am the founder of the german Left 4 Dead Wiki. I am the only user at this time. To push the german wiki forward, can i use some content from the englisch wiki? I can put a community link on our main page too (Partnership?). Or a interwiki link on every article of both wiki's. It would be very nice. Many thanks.

--Vault 87 Dweller 14:03, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Hi Sera404,

I just notcied a minor grammar error in the Leaker's description, I couldn't edit so just wanted you to know.

Many thanks!

VectorDelta (talk) 02:08, June 28, 2019 (UTC)VectorDelta

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