Left 4 Dead Wiki

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"Hey! Mr. Positive, we just crashed, you got something positive to say about that?"

Welcome to my new and improved Talk Page. I am an admin so if anyone has any questions or concerns, feel free to leave me a message and Francis or I will get back to you as soon as we can...

"Guys... everyone, I wanna say something... I HATE COMPUTERS!! (Hearty Laugh)"
―Francis (Note: not an actual in-game Francis quote)


Welcome to the Left 4 Dead Wiki!

"...I'm Francis, and that's Grampa Bill..."

Hello, 06abrahb.

Thank you for your edits to the File:CEDA 2.jpg page! There's still a lot to do, though. We hope you'll stay with us and continue to help improving the best source for information on Left 4 Dead!

Where to start:

Not sure what to do? Check out the recent changes page to see what's going on. It's a great place to start out on; you can see what articles people are editing the most, and see how you can help! You can also look at the to do list. It has a list of things that need to be done.
Have any questions? Ask at our help desk or on the discussion page with each article. No talk page for a page you'd like to ask about? Feel free to make one! Still confused? The community portal has an outline of the site and links to pages that will help you learn how to edit.

By the way, be sure to sign in every time you edit! We'd like to be able to recognize you!

We're glad to have you here, and we hope that you'll keep editing this wiki. If still have any questions, feel free to leave them on my talk page. I'd be glad to help you out.

Happy Editing!
-- Jo The Marten (Talk) 05:10, November 29, 2009

Re: Picture Uploading[]

[[Image:File.png(or jpg)]] works. There are a few additional tags like 'thumb', 'left', 'right', and changing the thumbnail size. You can also place a comment at the end of the tags. An example of utilizing these tags would be [[Image:hunter.png|thumb|right|150px|A Hunter.]] and when used on a page, it will turn out like this:

A Hunter.

Hope this helps. Jo the Marten(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 23:56, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

To link to stuff you can just use [URL|what you want to have appear]] like [http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/left4dead/images/f/fd/Smoker-artwork.gif Here is a Smoker] Here is a Smoker. To link from an image, you can add a 'link=' tab at the end of the image code. Like [[Image:Witchcry.png|link=File:Witchrun.png]] Witchcry.png. Sorry if this still didn't help. I'm really not sure what you're asking for. Maybe an example? Jo the Marten(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 04:41, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Re: Sill about picture uploading...[]

Ah, yeah, you can't link page titles. Tell you what. You make a small gallery of the images you have, and I'll take care of the rest. To make a gallery just use the <gallery></gallery> code. Any images put under here only need the File:Name.png. You don't need the whole [[Image:File.png]] stuff. Example of the gallery code:

<gallery> File:Evac1.png File:Evac2.png File:Evac3.png </gallery> Jo the Marten(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 00:39, December 7, 2009 (UTC)



Thanks for fixing that space on CEDA's page. I could NOT get it to behave properly =) .Nightmirage 21:28, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Regarding CEDA image[]

Did you correct it yourself or was the image updated from a Valve update? Sera404 10:01, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re:How to connect articles[]

You mean on the side of the screen where all the menus are? Only admins can put stuff there. Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 21:33, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

re: Oops![]

No prob, I stuck the quote you found with correct caps from the script. :3 Sera404 05:54, October 6, 2010 (UTC)


No, the more detailed locations will get their own pages. Like how Fairfield and Newburg are. These pages need a massive cleaning. Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 03:38, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Detour Ahead[]

Page has been unprotected. Thanks for getting permission. Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 13:31, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

re: Creating Infoboxes for Detour Ahead[]

Jo The Marten made the ones for the other custom campaigns with infoboxes. You should probably ask her, because I'm lousy at attempting anything more complex than tables, haha. :D Sera404 07:08, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Infoboxes for Detour Ahead[]

Well, I made the infobox using the same colors from Dead Before Dawn, not wholly original, but it gets the job done. I also added the campaign to the drop down menu at the bottom of the page, and individual infoboxes for each chapter have also been added, now you just make sure you keep working on 'em articles, and try to get some images. DeathBlade182 04:21, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

re: Zoey Notes[]

No problem, although the cow thing is plausible, it's also possible that they were just all culled out of paranoia. It's not like it couldn't happen, Eqypt did that with almost all their pig population during the swine flu thing. :3 Sera404 07:16, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Page for Left 4 Dead merchandise[]

I wouldn't mind. As long as it looks acceptable and nice. I suggest if you aren't sure about it, make a subpage like this and use it as a sandbox before making the page official. Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 02:24, October 24, 2010 (UTC)


Woah, totally missed that, and it also had some horrible grammar -__-"

Thank you for pointing it out! DeathBlade182 00:18, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

re: Thanks![]

No prob, and thanks for the congrats. :D Sera404 21:32, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Old wiki layout[]

No, there's no way to go back. This is official now, and there's nothing I can do about it. I knew if people used Monaco while this was first coming out that there'd be problems but oh well. I mean, not to sound pushy but it's just something everyone will have to deal with. Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 23:07, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Redirect[]

You mean this? Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 16:57, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Not only will I do that But I'll also show you how to find these pages on your own. If you search for a page, say New Orleans, and it takes you to the locations page: scroll up to the top of the page and it should say in the top left "Redirected from New Orleans". If you click on New Orleans, it will take you to the actual New Orleans page that just contains the redirect code. :) Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 05:07, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

new pages[]

Hello, i noticed you have been making a couple'o pages about locations in the last few days. so i was just wondering if you are going to make a page about New Orleans? Hengara 22:44, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, yea i've been busy the last couple of days... :P and to answer your question, yes i will also be doing New Orleans and some locations there. I'm just finishing up the Hard Rain campaign before i move on to The Parish...06abrahb 04:50, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

Also, are you going to be making a page about the brickfactory in rayford?

i put this in this allready written section, since its at least a little related and this way i'll save some space, hope you dont mind. Hengara 04:29, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Welcome to Hell Custom Campaign[]

Probably goes without saying, but I assume you got permission, correct? Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 13:06, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, of course... :P he said "No problem dude. Good to see that you will put some info about my campaign on the wiki.

Thanks! " 06abrahb 16:38, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

You make new pages and title them "Template:______ color (dark)" and "Template:______ color (light)" with the name of the campaign going into the blank space. Then you copy the code seen on other color pages (Such as The Dark Carnival's dark color for example) and you replace the hexadecimal codes with the color codes you want. If you need codes, here is the website I happen to use that allows you to put in individual RGB amounts to get more specific colors than just reading a chart. :D Hope that makes sense. As for the colors you should use, I usually leave it up to the map maker, but you may choose if you really want. I just had it that way since I felt it was the author's work and they should choose the colors, ya know? :3 Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 00:40, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Your user page[]

"Love playing Valve games such as Left 4 Dead and Half Life 2... and come on at least CEDA tried to contain the infection =D"

>implying they didn't try to contain the invasion at Black Mesa

Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 17:54, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Re:The Waterfront Market[]

I think it's the Mississippi river. After all the Mississippi river cuts through the middle of New Orleans, and it might seem like a lake cause of the distance or maybe the mist obscuring the other side. But that river is particularly wide. :D Took my family a good couple of minutes to pass over it on a road trip. (There's also the fact that if it were a lake there either might not be a river for Virgil to have used to get there, or a very narrow river.) There's no way that'd be considered part of the ocean. There's a bridge that goes across. :D Sure it leads out to the ocean, but a lot of rivers end at the ocean. Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 12:51, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Edit: I found a pic of the Mississippi River in New Orleans. :3 Here's the picture! Feel free to compare. Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 13:01, December 8, 2010 (UTC)

Regarding the four Left 4 Dead Survivor pages...[]

Please stop removing the <p> and </p> coding from those pages. They force paragraph breaks in the bulletpoint sections, where normal double enter cannot insert a paragraph break. Despite multiple notes in each page stating why they're there, as well as edit reverts along with accompanying note explaning why, you still continue to remove them every time you make edits to those pages. Is there any particular reason why you object to using them? Sera404 14:27, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Which operating system are you using? I'm using Firefox, but I don't know if other OSes have different effects when doing an edit. Sera404 23:13, December 17, 2010 (UTC)
Haha, silly me, I meant "which browser". Operating system indeed. Well, I'm using Firefox which doesn't have any problems with Wikia for the most part. It might be a Chrome issue with Wikia, bleah. Sera404 02:49, December 20, 2010 (UTC)
I haven't asked, but a lot of them appear to be manual deletion, if so, I'll just revert it rather than manually re-insert them in again. I've left notes asking for it not to be deleted, so it's not like they can say "I didn't see it". :o Sera404 03:20, December 20, 2010 (UTC)


Re: Just an idea...[]

No. Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 11:41, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

With no disrespect, I was wondering "Why do you keep removing the pictures I posted of the CEDA warning signs?"

Yeah, I saw that about a minute after I sent you that message. Sorry about that. And thanks for replying.

Yeah, No Problem... Umm, Which One Could You Not Find, I Posted 2 Of Them.

The "Official Instructions"

And "Safety Procedures"

Oh, okay.


Could you get on Steam, please? Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 22:31, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


Hey can you make more edits on the Good Ambush Spots in the Spitter page?Left4Deadseries FAN 18:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Cause I havent played the game i months (its broken) and the Spitter is my favorite PLAYABLE special infected and since othe infected like the Smoker have Good Ambush Spots its just as fair for the Spiter page.Left4Deadseries FAN 19:35, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Last edit[]

I wrote that the Strider was in the background on the poster, colorblind or something are just crazed? And, not much with HL2 to do other than being a hint Breakin'Benny 21:15, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

i looked at the poster several times and i don't see it. maybe you can post a pic indicating where it is... 06abrahb 21:21, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Well, go check this out. Breakin'Benny 21:24, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

interesting but that is A LOT of speculation... i doubt that Valve did that intentionally. i'm pretty sure the admins would agree with me but if you want you can talk to User:Sera about this if you still believe it should be mentioned... 06abrahb 21:36, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

No problem[]

Hey thanks for the short message and for reading my page, nice of u :) . I'm glad you've detailed the CEDA page, it looks really good. Anyway i'm new to this wiki stuff and i wanna learn how to do things (like the userbox thing like: "this user likes to protect zoey"). i'd be glad to be your friend, and yes i do read your work :) ( sorry i got jealous cause u edited most of the pages, sorry x3

thanks and again, good job

Re: Permission[]

Greetings. Yes, I did get permission; you can find proof on each campaign's talk page. Diputs is especially appreciative.

Thanks for your concern! Monojin 06:44, April 12, 2011 (UTC)

Re: thanks[]

Thx alot for the tip, it really helps. you're awesome :D

zoey95 21:50, April 14, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Progress on work :)[]

Hey, i think i'm doing good on editing some information that have grammer or spelling mistakes :3. I think i'm doing well so far, check out my Favourite 's page and tell me if it's good :) Zoey95 00:59, April 17, 2011 (UTC)


Congratulations on making it to admin. It's very nice to have another devoted person on staff. Monojin 07:14, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

hi man, thank you for sorting the no parking into a proper custom maps template, it looks great!, sorry to be a pest but is there a tutorial or something on how to use that template, just there may be a few other community authors who would love to post there maps and if i can tell them how to do it first they will do it right the first time

thanks again


Silent Hill page[]

I have permission from the person. Here is a copy of what I sent them on L4DMaps.com. I don't know if that's proof enough, but It's what I have

My Messages (1/1)[]

Leafo : Re: L4D Wiki (2011-05-23) Delete Sure, go ahead. I am actually flattered that you asked :)


I would like to put your map on Wiki and make it all nice. My problem is that I need your permission to do so. The page has been locked until I get your permission, and if I don't get it within a certain amount of time the page will be deleted.


may I ask why my page was deleted? Halseymj 17:57, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

how do youm people enjoy youselves here. Halseymj 20:51, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

About the wrong edits[]

Oh, sorry for the edits on the Witch Page, but I believe that the information was true, in terms of describing the appearance of the Infected Witch in the game, and in describing her in-game scripts. I will not vandalise again.KevzMarz 11:46, June 24, 2011 (UTC)

Extra Request

  • Mind if you lighten the green coloring of links? It can be too dark, since it is mixed with a black background.
  • How about changing the background image unto a horde of zombies!?, It would be very nice, since L4D is a horror-themed game.

User's Member Since (date) Bug?[]

Is there something wrong about the Member since (date - MM/DD/YY/) info on most of our User Pages in L4D Wiki? I believed it is a bug, sinced I checked my other User Pages on other wikis, and they were still okay. Except on this wiki. Yesterday, when I checked out admin user pages, they were members since June 24, 2011!

Isn't it that the Member Since (MM/DD/YY) thing tells you the date when you joined the wiki? - It was just crazy when others visit the User Pages. KevzMarz 07:03, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

I will handle Maintenance[]

As to concern the wrong edits on the Witch page, I promise I will not "vandalise" again. And as a result, I can handle this wiki's maintenance, refer to the Special:SpecialPages maintenance page, like what I have been handling the maintenance of Devil May Cry Wiki.

...Hmmm, seems like few editors here watch over the maintenance, well, I will fix those! - KevzMarz 07:33, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

New Pages[]

Mind if I make these pages? (I think they are not yet present on the wiki)

  • Addons
  • Music Director
  • Pause Menu (?) - If possible...
  • Steam
  • Steam Cloud
  • Source Engine
  • L4D2 Crack - The file that lets you play L4D2 Offline even without Steam

KevzMarz 10:13, July 9, 2011 (UTC)

Better Pics[]

Thank you very much! This is my favorite Wikia for my favorite game, and I'm enjoying giving everyone else high-resolution pictures. Thanks for your pictures to give me some ideas of pictures to take! Glad to hear this from an admin =D Made my day, thank you!

Jordan Woolf 04:42, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you both so much for giving me these two positions. I'm happy to be recognized on here and I will continue to keep up the good work. Thank you! Hope I can wind up being both your friends, too! And you'll have to explain to me how to set up those About Me boxes that both you and Jo the Marten have!

Jordan Woolf 20:22, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Quick question[]

And on those pages where I posted the pictures, and on your edits, it says, "Fixed pic," what does that mean? Am I doing something wrong when I upload the pictures or something? Just wanna know in case I am so I can refrain from doing it in the future. Thank you! Jordan Woolf 07:10, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oh. I know, I originally placed it on the left alignment, but then I went through other pages and saw they were only ever aligned right, so I changed it to right. But maybe I hit preview instead of publish. Sorry! And I'm still trying to find where some of those CEDA posters are in-game, the ones you posted, so I can take bigger pictures. Some of them I have no idea where they are, though, so I'm working on it now

Jordan Woolf 07:24, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Pix Template - Pictures needed Category[]

I like to comment on the Pix Template (pictures needed) thing on top of most articles. I noticed that pages with more than 3 images still have this template on. When I try to edit them, the Pix Template was removed, but the Pictures needed category was not. One example is the Military page, I removed the Pix template but it is still listed on the category, can this be fixed? KevzMarz 09:41, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

New additions?[]

I saw that the Chat was now available on this wiki. How about these?

  • Achievements
  • New Wiki Editor

KevzMarz 07:09, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but I don't really know anything about that. Ask User:Jo The Marten as she would know the best about the whole wiki stuff... --06abrahb 16:37, July 31, 2011 (UTC)

Left 4 Dead 2-The Crazies[]

Left 4 Dead 2-The Crazies is a mashed-up suspenseful game that i created with left 4 dead 2 and the crazies together, well, the left 4 dead 2's survivor landed on a peaceful town named odgen marsh they discover that the water is contaminated by a huge plane whose contained Green Flu and Trixie, Two Prototypical Rhabdoviridae Bio-chemical weapon, which is an accidental, when drinking the water, people may be ill or they may turn into Horrifying brutal, Depraved, Bloodthirsty infected killers who can lurk the survivor in the dark shadow. The infectedlike Crazies who can act like zombie and crazies, they known as Common Crazies and the special infectedlike crazies who act like special infected and act like crazies, they also known as Special Crazies, These two infected type may able to use weapon and drive vehicles, and there one special crazies that i created, i called it Crazies Hunter who is a half-infected and half-crazies, by the way, The Crazies Hunter may also use weapon and drive vehicles, when the survivor is shooting the crazies hunter, the crazies hunter could jump high as he can and fire his weapon to hurt the survivor, so the survivor must be quiet if he appeared, also i created another one, Crazies Smoker who is also a half-infected,half-crazies, he also use a weapon, a Sniper Rifle, which he goes far away from the survivor, he find a sniper rifle and zoom it. so the survivor must be careful they don't know he somewhere around the building.

Citation Needed[]

Why did you delete the Citation Needed page?

Padge61 17:23, August 7, 2011 (UTC)


Can you please explain why you keep reverting my good faith edit?Forgingiron 21:00, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

...maybe it's because its a relation to a completely different gaming universe, that has nothing to do with L4D at all? I saw your edit, and i'm pretty sure somewhere in the guidelines they don't permit that relation stuff. AteAlive 22:04, August 12, 2011 (UTC)
We stopped permitting relation trivia because it got to the point that people were pulling things out of thin air to compare things to. Like the Hunter relating to every single video game character there ever was, or will be, that has a hood. Likewise, lots of games may have a fast food restaurant, just like there are Burger Kings and McDonalds in real life. We shouldn't have to compare it to anything. We only permit comparison trivia if it's officially stated by a member of Valve's staff that it was based on something, like Left 4 Dead's relation to Shaun of the Dead and 28 Days Later. Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 22:36, August 12, 2011 (UTC)


I came here as quickly as i cood sir admin! i heard of this VANDALIZING TROLLING USER. it makes sence because theres been plenty of vandalizing in this wiki l8ly and she could have made DOZENS of accounts! it explains how shes not going away. sHe said shes an admin along with sum of the MOST RESPECTED USERS in this wiki and who knows maybe she might slowly turn her back to all the users and block them infinitely causing them 2 do nothing 4 defence. u need 2 do something. im pleading u 2 b more aware of the users in this wiki! ESPECIALLY THE FEMALE USERS!!! jo the marten cood be 1 0f the trolls who could betray us or others as well. im not trying 2 accuse anyone but this SITUATION is causing me 2 b more cautious but they ARE LIKELY SUSPECTS!!! im just here 2 warn you because i care about this wiki and we r here 2 MAINTAIN ORDER! lets put the WE in WIKI and work as a team 2 defeat the troll and his dozen accounts! any moment the troll is going 2 ring the bell and begin the WAR.

Please type in proper English. I can assure you I'm not vandalizing my own wiki. I find it quite rude to jump to the conclusion that all female uses are vandals. The vandal will get bored eventually and leave, but until then, I have no problem reverting them and blocking them as many times as I need to. Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 03:12, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

hey thanks very much aa do you have xbox 360 live to play? if you have it talk to me to play ok? XD

ohh ok no pro9blem man =)

excuse me adm. i'm new here and i don't know what i do to block me my page can you said me what i do please?

Because i don't want to so it again please =/

aa too said sorry because i didn't want to be irresponsable please sorry really only say me waht i have to do and i can do it no problem please..

for example i can edit with images the atrium but less than 5? something like that?

CEDA Egghead morons.....[]

I see you like CEDA couse of the funny egghead yellow suits?.... :P

BTW do you have Steam acount and play left 4 dead 2? my name is. Find me its gona be fun :D

Scare Cr0w 21:52, October 23, 2011 (UTC)Scare Cr0w

-WolfHound- or Bolthorn[]

Keith Fanart[]

Yet it is good enough then not having no picture of what he might look like, why not just put description under the pic saying this is how he might look like besides l4d fans whouldnt maind the fanart :)

Scare Cr0w 21:53, October 23, 2011 (UTC)Scare Cr0w

Woot do you mean front change?....[]

All i did was to add some ``

Unless im missing something?

Scare Cr0w 21:52, October 23, 2011 (UTC)Scare Cr0w

Hi From a fellow Walking Dead Fan[]

Hi. I've seen you on the Walking Dead Wikia on occasion. Nice to find you here. Alockwood1 20:53, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

I also noticed that you are on StarCraft Wikia. Alockwood1 22:21, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

I'm on every day, since about 2 months ago. Alockwood1 22:43, November 15, 2011 (UTC)

Regards to Glitched Hummer[]

The Apartments Humvee[]

Regarding your comment on the Apartments: there is indeed a glitched hummer that, if playing the survivors or infected outside the normal boundary area, can kill you if touched. I've tried this myself, and many community members here are aware of this glitch themselves. Some video examples:

However I think removing that comment from the random user was a good idea. It didn't belong there, and the wording was a little confusing. Just lettin ya know :) Undead 42 23:18, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Hate message removed from vandal's page, I apologize[]

Yes, yes. I apologize for doing something as cruel as that (I guess I do not fully possess the Element of Kindness after all, not that you need to know what or where the Element of Kindness comes from). But I've removed it now, and I'll try not to make it happen again. Breakin'Benny 19:54, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

PS: I'm a high-functioning autistic, that's why something like that may happen. But I'll try to not make hate messages again.

Fluttershy would be very disappointed in you. Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 18:44, November 28, 2011 (UTC)
OK, here's the truth to why I wrote a threat to that "Survival Mode" vandal, I wrote that because I wished harm upon him/her for messing with a Wikia and felt that he could pick on another large Wiki instead and then get banned, blocked and get many insults. I am a kind person though, all I wanted was to show how strong I was and what a weakling was. (I was acting all tough and told him to "go to hell", but not in a literal way) Breakin'Benny 17:34, November 30, 2011 (UTC)


About the Law Enforcement gallery[]

thanks for adding those photos i would add them myself but i have no way of taking screenshots on the Xbox 360.Anyways could you get a screenshot of the outside of the Fort Harris County police station and im pretty sure there are sherrif patrol cars can be found in the Dark Carnival campaign in chaper 1 on the highway thank you--User:Snipergod 02:41, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

The Leaker[]

Hey 06abrahb, I have found a gameplay video of the Leaker do you know where I would be able to put it. That is why I made the Leaker page because I found a gameplay video and I didn't know where to put it. :P TheSteelerNation2 (talk) 00:09, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Oh I just have video of the console command mod. How it is a Boomer that stops moving and then explodes with no bile and flames surround its body stump. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c75ahI4IsUM and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1d1GiDzUVA.

[[Video:Left 4 Dead 2 Cut Special Infected - Leaker|px|right]]

TheSteelerNation2 (talk) 04:36, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

User Pages[]

How do you edit your User Page so it has all the cool stuff like "I like Bill" and such? TheSteelerNation2 (talk) 04:38, February 1, 2012 (UTC)


Why did you edit out that section of Rochelle's description, I added that in because that was in the official game guide of Left 4 Dead 2. 16:22, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Custom Userboxes[]

I am trying to make one for:

This user likes Screamers - 70px-Screamer_navh.jpg (have the colors look like the other Infected [This user likes Boomers])

This user hates Rochelle - Gij.png (have the colors look like the other Survivors [This user likes Bill])

This user likes Cold Stream - Streamcrosser.jpg (have the colors look like Hard Rain's [This user likes Hard Rain])

but when I use the images it wont show up.

Can you help me by making them for me?

I would be very thankful!!!

TheSteelerNation2 (talk) 01:35, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Febuary 3rd Blog Post[]


I added the new blog post to the Main Page and to the Blog Post page. Also I edited the Mutation page to corrospond with the new mutation.

Feb 3rd Update - Hard Eight, More Cold Stream TheSteelerNation2 (talk) 01:39, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Hard Eight Mutation[]

I was playing L4D2 on the Xbox today (02/05/2012) and for some reason it didn't update the Mutation and I was confused. Would that mean that the Mutation's Encore is only for PC??? TheSteelerNation2 (talk) 07:08, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

This is actually getting a bit fun...you edit a page...you edit it too...

I mean...i edit a page...you edit the same page

James Heller (talk) 09:37, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Can you edit here:http://thesupergaming.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity. I have been trying my hardest to make this wiki grow and the wiki itself is kinda a video game encyclopedia. I would really apprecaite it if you edited there because we need fans from different game series to fully expand. As of that i will edit on a wiki you have that needs help or any other wikis that you want me to edit on. Overall thank you for reading!Reviewportal77 04:39, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Requesting edit permission[]

I wan to continue my edits which may lead to removal of some of articles` text but will not break it or cause any harm. For example, in Welcome to Hell/Trainstation Finale: [http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/Campaign Campaign] can be replaced with [[Campaign]] as it will give the same result. Or in Whitney County Bridge article: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truss_bridge truss bridge] can be replaced with shorter version - [[wikipedia:Truss_bridge|truss bridge]].. Teyandee (Talk) 04:59, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

The quote I put on Zoey is better, okay? I'm gonna repaste it there, and just leave it. Stay Puft 17:24, February 28, 2012 (UTC)Stay Puft

Dude, I'm not trying to intimidate or threaten you! Stop doing that! I'm just doing my job as a wiki editor and I'm trying to improve pages. The quote I put is just better than the one you because it actually says something about Zoey. Why did you think I was threatening you? I was just telling you what I was going to do. Why'd you overreact? Stay Puft 16:01, February 29, 2012 (UTC)Stay Puft

Its been a while.. :P[]

Oh hey it's me, Zoeyyy.. well mabye not. I was just wondering how are you and hope everything on the L4D page is still going fine. Just checking becaauuuse.. it's been ages! :) Zoey95 23:26, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

Admin i need help[]

Help me find the Blog Button thanks -_- and i hope that picture isn't from Gmod because Gmod doesn't like renamon and it makes me Mad but anyway i need to find that blog option -_- Dan67 15:05, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

Oops ):[]

I accidentaly made two pages when i was trying to make one, Can it be fixed and please no smart remark because a lot of admins have made smart remarks to me and it just shows how Childish one of the admins are and well i try to make the Page say Blog on the side of it but instead the stupid thing said it made two pages?

I KNOW IT DOESN"T ALLOW BLOG BUT FOR GOD SAKES IM TRYING TO KEEP MYSELF CONTENT HERE and now i created a additional Page that i didn't want DX (SAD AND NOT UNDERSTOOD) Dan67 19:13, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

HEY thats not cool man

If the military didn't want to rescue carriers, they would have just left the survivors to die in the original game. 22:47, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Why you do that?[]

I putted that page up because you fail to put some descriptive writing about the hunter, it's best to delete but is there a better way to put "descriptive"writing instead of having a dull looking ad.


Yo, if someone's clearly a spambot, or if their first edit EVER is blatant, inexcusable vandalism, just block them forever. There's no point having spambots around. Jo the MartenI dare you to click Mini Hunter(Shriek) ಠ_ಠ 01:27, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

I wish value could help digitalDNA studios in making a new update for castleminer Z in august 3rd,2012 because the guns are so repetive ):--Dan67 15:58, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Left 4 Dead Charity Marathon[]

Hi, We at Segaford & EFA are hosting a 4 Day Charity Gaming Marathon, Starting Midday GMT 27th of March and Ending 31st of March. Playing through Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2. We will be playing through every campaign, every mode, alot of custom campaign and mods. We will even have some community devs and mappers joining us for chats and maybe a round or two during the marathon. We also have a Very Special Live one off Survivors Diary Podcast, this is a one off revival all in aid of charity, with the original hosts and maybe a guest or two! All of this is in aid of charity, we are raising money for Cancer Research UK and Diabetes UK; Hoping to Raise £500 or more for each charity.

http://twitch.tv/langford777 http://segaford.co.uk

Langford 00:10, March 26, 2012 (UTC)



About my edits[]

About some of the edits I've maken, some of them are quite true. I don't know why you're just deleting them, have you never played it before?

True, correct edits you fixed, thinking it was incorrect:

  • Nick can sometimes say "NOOOOO!" when he startles a Witch (I have tested when there are no Smokers present and this is true)
  • There is a weapon glitch that affects a player when he plays on Single Player (swapping weapons)

Just lettin' you know about this. Like I said, before you delete it, test it out. Notifiy me if you find one of these is incorrect. Dungeonmaster12 09:40, May 8, 2012 (UTC)


The Spitter[]

I was just wondering if you have seen my edit's on "The Spitter" page. I added a lot and was wondering what you think. Hunter Biondolino 22:45, May 13, 2012 (UTC)

Bad Page[]

Hello, I just saw a page called "Riot Infected/How NOT to Survive a Green Flu Epidemic and why the Riot Infected Failed" and this clearly needs to be changed, obviously I'm not an Admin so I was hoping you could either delete it or move it to a blog, thanks. MK 12 DIVISION 22:49, May 20, 2012 (UTC)

Never mind, someone else deleted it. MK 12 DIVISION 05:25, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Article Deletion[]

Hey, 06abrahb, just a quick reminder that when you delete pages, sometimes broken links are created in articles that once linked to the deleted page. So when you're deleting a page, please also use the "Special:WhatLinksHere" pages to find and remove broken links as soon as the article is deleted, it saves hassle for later cleanups. :) --Five Dog Talk 22:34, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Gender and Audible Clues[]

Hello O6abrahb I had a request that I was wanting for you to make. I was wondering if it was ok for you to create a Gender and Audible Clues section in the Special Infected Template that is on the right of each Special Infected page. If that was ok with you can you create that. If you do can you please fill in this for each of their Adubile Clues if you agree.

  • Hunter = A guttural growling.
  • Smoker = A rough, rasping caugh.
  • Boomer = ? you can decide the Boomer's.
  • Tank = Dramatic music, thundering footfalls, and an enormous roar.
  • Witch = Faint sobing that gets louder as you near.
  • Charger = ? you can decide the Charger's
  • Spitter = A throat-clearing shriek
  • Jockey = A cackling laugh

The Gender section you can go ahead and fill that in. However for the Boomer I was thinking somthing like this.

Gender = Male (Left 4 Dead), Male and Female (Left 4 Dead 2)

Again thank you so much if you can make this possible. but again I am new here and don't know all the ropes yet. Feel free to change anything you don't think is right.

Hunter Biondolino 22:25, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

Hello Francis Its Me Rochellel4d I have A Qusteion For you WHen is Left 4 dead 3 Comeing out Cause Left 4 dead 2 Came out Last Year From Rochellel4d


Hey 06abrahb, just um, wanted to talk about your recent editing.

So, a lot of the time, the stuff you revert back is reverted for solid reasons, so that's all well and good. But sometimes, there are things that you revert that can be helpful, or perhaps placed somewhere else in the article where it would be good information otherwise. I was beginning to notice this about your editing and so I checked over your contributions quickly. I mean, literally, the first page is just reverted edits. Generally, reverting and rollbacks are for vandalism or completely nonproductive editing, and I've been around some wikis long enough to know that there's never that much nonproductive editing. I know editing a quiet wiki can get monotonous, but sometimes if you just flatly remove something that someone's added to the page, you need to at least give them the courtesy of a reason as to why. As an admin you need to be someone people can ask for help to improve their editing, rather than the guy who just undoes everything that gets touched, heh.

I know it's not a big issue, so don't worry too much about it, I just felt compelled to bring it to your attention. Oh, and I also looked over the adminship requests and there's no request from you there, was it granted to you after the staff request? :) Just interested to know because there's a whole chunk of this wiki's life that I missed in the middle, heh. --Five Dog Talk 12:27, June 15, 2012 (UTC)

About a page 06abrahb removed[]

I'd like to know why you felt it needed to remove a much needed and previously absent page. "You Are Dead" should have stayed up because of its constant presence in the games. It would be wrong to call this a complete wiki if we didn't cover the small things like this as well as the big things.

I will acknowledge that the page was quite uninformative, but that was due to lack of knowledge on my part. I was hoping that "You Are Dead" would recieve needed edits and revisions from people who know more about it than I do. Please, tell me why something that has been in both L4D games and has been seen by all who play Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2 was removed from the L4D wiki.

DarrellThody 21:09, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Please read: Vandalism case[]

Sorry to disturb you, but I made an account in hopes to repair this issue, but was unable, and thought I should bring it to an admins attention http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/The_Infected this page has been vandalized by http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/User:Mimi24482 the special infected section to be precise, some of the quotes (also forgive the poor formatting I don't usually mess with wikis)

"In Left 4 Dead 2, there is also a female Boomer, although the gender has no effect on gameplay.hes marrie 2 the female boomer."

" In Left 4 Dead 2, they can be killed with a melee weapon while in the state of pouncing by aiming upwards and hitting, although this is fairly difficult, as timing is vital and it's easier to kill them from a distance with a high-powered primary weapon.the story is that he was so in love with the witch so they got married."

almost all the special infected sections have something else added to the end of them, they made the last several edits to the page, and I wish I could fix it myself, thank you for reading this! Emmathetiger 02:05, July 10, 2012 (UTC)

German Left 4 Dead Wiki[]

Hey! 1. Sorry for my bad englisch. 2. I am the founder of the german Left 4 Dead Wiki. I am the only user at this time. To push the german wiki forward, can i use some content from the englisch wiki? I can put a community link on our main page too (Partnership?). Or a interwiki link on every article of both wiki's. It would be very nice. Many thanks.

--Vault 87 Dweller 14:01, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Pictures request for the german Left 4 Dead Wiki[]

With some content i mean pictures or 1 or 2 articles as a jump help. Can i use some pictures from this wiki for the german wiki? Can you send me an answer, please. Many thanks.

--Vault 87 Dweller 20:55, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Ammo page[]

Oukay, I would understand reverting edit where I would add some bullshit, but reverting edit where I put <references/> tag is... Well, I don't know what I should think. Better explaining this than starting edition fight.

Pangia (talk) 19:27, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Undoing my edits.[]

I know a new user editing pages sends up a lot of red flags, especially when they are removal edits but I think you were a bit quick to judge what I did. I removed the sentence on the sniper rifle because it was speculation and really not that relevent anyways. The zombies definetly don't grab onto your gun in this game. The other thing I've changed I put a discussion up on the talk page.

I'm fairly familiar with Wikia. I've done tons of editing over the years but mostly through unregistered edits and an account I lost a while back. M0xxy (talk) 21:01, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Related Videos Module[]

Hi, my name is Nic and I'm a member of the Wikia Content Development Team. As you may have seen on many wikis such as Call of Duty, there is a new module for the right hand column that displays related videos to the Wiki. This is a new feature that we want to place on your wiki, would you be cool with allowing this? The module can be seen on any page, here is an example - Wagnike2 (talk) 18:48, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

WD wiki[]

It says I need to contact you, but since you accidentally blocked me, I can't contact you on the Walking Dead wiki. I guess you blocked the wrong guy, since I was fixing spelling and fact-related errors on your CDC page. Not to mention I even went to the talk page to discuss it, but everyone agreed with my by not replying. So yeah... don't see any problems there. Unblock me there, please, so I can fix the error on the CDC page... AGAIN -.- -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talkcontribs) File:Flag of the Allied States of America.png 15:02, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

I did go on the talk page the second time and stated my argument, and gave anyone who objected the opportunity to give their opinion. The actual staff of the Walking Dead series never stated that they are using a fictional version of the CDC and no facts suggest that they are. Only one CDC exists and thus that's the CDC which is used in the series. Just because a character didn't pronounce the "s" doesn't mean it isn't like that. Don't run your wikia like an autocracy. Your main page says it's a collaborative project about the Walking Dead, and not "06adrahb's sandbox wiki." Either state your argument in the talk page or get over it. Now again, unblock me so I can continue, please, and hopefully I'll see why you wish to keep it "Center" instead of "Centers", on the talk page. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talkcontribs) File:Flag of the Allied States of America.png 18:37, August 18, 2012 (UTC)

(Godzilla King Of The Monsters (talk) 14:27, August 19, 2012 (UTC))

do you know when left 4 dead 3 is coming out

Can you delete this?[]

Hey abrah, can you delete this page it's just someones idea for L4D3. http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/Left_4_dead_3

Riley Heligo 15:05, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

Left 4 Dead wiki in other languages[]

Hello, I did a very thorough search of wikia.com and I found the following foreign-language Left 4 Dead wikis. The first one (de) is the only one linked to your wiki.

These wikis may be smaller than your own, yes, but they would be supremely benefited if you would Interlanguage link them to your wiki. This creates a small link to the wiki in the "Languages" section at the bottom of the page- see my own Wolfenstein wiki for an example with seven.

Please interlanguage link these wikis to your wiki, and also I advise you to link them to each other as well, so you can link between languages. You can send in a request to do this at w:Community Central:Interlanguage link requests. Alternatively, I recommend you allow me to manage it in the entirety. I do this for a lot of wikis and I know what I am doing. Just give me permission.

This will supremely benefit the international Left4Dead community. Thank you for considering my offer. Elecbullet (talk) 01:53, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Can You clean the wiki of all unwanted photos? 03:04, December 2, 2012 (UTC)KTHXBYE


Hey 06arahb,

I am new to this wiki and would just like to alert you of some trolling on "The Passing" campaign page. (The whole page just says "Admin06arahb is a fucking asshole" over and over again). If you could revert this graffiti, that'd be great.

Thank you very much,

Killabear (talk) 05:48, January 27, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Welcome[]

Thanks for your welcome 06abrahb! I'd like to log in but I can't because it asks for my Email addres and I don't like it! But thanks anyways, I know you can't do anything about it... 21:17, March 10, 2013 (UTC)Jacob

L4D2/Resident Evil 6 news[]

Hi, 06abrahb!

I added information about the upcoming crossover between Left 4 Dead 2 and Resident Evil 6 on my subpage. Normally something like this would be popped into a blog, but since there aren't any here, I wasn't sure where you guys might want it placed. Feel free to move it around wherever is best - or let me know, and I can do it!

Best regards, Raylan13 (talk) 03:16, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

L4D 2 X RE 6[]

so i heard there was a crossover with Resident Evil 6 and L4D 2. i heard there are new zombies in l4d 2. i played and none. can you show me a video or pic? thank you! :D Walking Dead Editor (talk) 13:21, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

Affiliate Group joining[]

Hey abrahb,

My name is Instulent and I come from the InstowGroup Wikia. I am messaging you to ask whether you would like to join the InstowGroup. It will benefit your wiki with more editors and it will spread good editors around both wikia's. Thank you for your time reading this and please don't hesitate about asking me questions. It would be a pleasure for your wikia joining us. :)


Instulent (talk) 13:07, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

Troll page[]

Pretty sure this is just a troll and needs to be deleted...


(and it keeps getting edited by people???) Kelcat (talk) 22:10, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

Can I take some things from the wiki ?[]

Hello .

So , I'm french , and yesterday I've seen that the only L4D's wiki in french was .. very empty. 

So I decided to create a wiki and I've translated some of yours articles . 

But I don't know , can I do it ? Am I needing a permission for use article of this wiki ?

I've just translated , no copy-paste all of the wiki. (And I'm doing all the work alone , so I can't do everything, so there's some thing that I haven't translated)

If I can't use them , say it , and I'm gonna delete everything that I taked from the wiki .

Sorry if I have a terrible english !

Have a nice day.

( I'm not sure that I can post it here , but forgive me if I've failed , I'm a little bit lost x) )

Tumevois (talk) 08:47, July 27, 2013 (UTC)

Left 4 Dead Confirmed[]

theres a leak and possilbe confrimed Left 4 Dead 3 Google it or Here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9mkuWcedHY

Reversion on The Barge[]

It helps to justify why the edit was undone, rather than just doing it.  I've since reverted it back.Foxi Hooves (talk) 00:06, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

RE: RE: Editing[]

Look: I'm trying to call them back.  They said that the cruise stops in the Keys, but the main destination is the Bahamas.  You really think this holds no merit, that Valve went through the trouble of finding a cruiseline's number that went down south and stopped at the Keys since no cruise ship sets sail for a place like that?Foxi Hooves (talk) 01:07, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

You didn't even read the edit, did you?Foxi Hooves (talk) 03:56, August 27, 2013 (UTC)

Walking dead wiki ban?[]

Hello, I have served my 3 month ban, it was supposed to be lifted an hour ago but i am still banned ( I actually was able to post on my work IP adress that was also banned for some reason, but the posts i made then dont even show up on this PC for some reason, please unban me.




If you delete my contribution be consistent and delete them all. Or take the time to read.

Sparktacus (talk) 02:59, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

A vandal has been spotted on this wikia.[]

http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/78.84.http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/ I spotted this user vandalising the Minigun Page, replacing the page with a Homosexual word. Alta1r Say What? 13:55, January 12, 2014 (UTC)

Reverting of nearly all edits regarding Left 4 Dead 2 versions of Left 4 Dead 1 maps.[]

Hi, I'm the anonymous user (forgot I had made an account) who added information on the L4D2 versions of the L4D1 maps after seeing the L4D1 map articles were inconsistent on providing this information.  I used the placement of the information that already existed on L4D1's "The Subway" page as a template.

I've come on today to see a huge chunk of my edits have been reverted without any reason given.  The following pages had my edits reverted: The Sewer, The Hospital, Rooftop Finale, The Truck Depot Finale, The Turnpike, The Church, Boathouse Finale, The Crane*, The Construction Site*, The Terminal*, Runway Finale*, The Woods, The Tunnel**, Farmhouse Finale***, The Docks, Port Finale.

  • These did already have L4D2 version info but I felt they were too overly detailed and occasionally conversational and out of style with the rest of the Wiki, so modified them a little (while trying to keep as much of the original text as I could out of respect to the original author).  They also seemed to be written when Dead Air had only recently been released, and whoever wrote them did not give the same treatment (in the same style) to Death Toll and Blood Harvest when they were released on L4D2, so they now feel out of place.
    • On this article I also removed the seperate headings for the two areas of the walkthrough, since no other L4D1 map has subtitles during the walkthrough like this.
      • Don't know how I didn't see the existing L4D2 version info on this, but like Dead Air's, I do feel it is overly detailed - do we really need several paragraphs of strategies?  The L4D2 info is also a subtitle for the "Behind the Scenes" section, which makes no sense.

On the other hand, the following pages were left untouched, despite providing the same level of information about the L4D2 version in the same format as the ones that were reverted:

The Alleys, The Drains, The Town, The Lighthouse, The Greenhouse, The Bridge (Left 4 Dead), The Train Station, The Barge.

Situations like The Barge particularly make no sense to me since I put the exact same information as The Docks and Port Finale (since comments on the L4D2 version apply to all three maps on The Sacrifice), yet those two were reverted.

I hope this doesn't seem ridiculously detailed or obsessive, but hey you're an admin so I assume you'd care.  I put several hours into researching and double checking my information was correct going back and forth between the two games, so it kind of sucks to have like 80% of my work removed with no consistency or explanation.  I love this Wiki and I just want the articles to be correct and consistent, and provide the key points on what was changed for those interested who didn't play Left 4 Dead 1.  I felt my major edits were explained suitably in the edit notes, so yeah I'd appreciate some feedback here.  Thanks.

(P.S. If you agree with my arguement, I'm happy to make the work on reverting the articles back to my versions, and I'll freshly edit Farmhouse Finale to combine the existing L4D2 info I didn't notice with my own contribution to get the overall best tone/format).

EDIT: I reverted back to my changes on the No Mercy map pages just to catch your attention regarding this (I assume if it wasn't okay to do so the option to undo an admin's change wouldn't be there).  I don't mean to slight your authority, I'd just really like to understand your actions here.

EDIT 2: I waited a good week since undoing your reverts on No Mercy.  Since I had no conflict with you over that, I've gone ahead and undone your reverts (and refined my contributions in a couple of places) on the rest of the L4D1 maps.  Hope this is alright.

JezMM (talk) 16:39, January 19, 2014 (UTC)



You had better ban this guy. He has made 3 inappropriate edits.

TheNeXusCore (talk) 03:16, January 23, 2014 (UTC)

Reverting my edits[]

Why did you twice revert my edits citing the voice actor of the Spitter, Charger, and Jockey? Dee Bradley Baker stated on Twitter he voiced them: https://twitter.com/deebradleybaker/status/421446641451679744 And I wrote a citation and everything. You reverted my edits without giving any good reason, so I'd like to hear one now, please. If not on the articles about the three different infected, then where should the information go? Dogman15 (talk) 01:03, February 11, 2014 (UTC)

Constant revert[]

Hi, i don't really like to say this but. Why you always revert my edits? I want know what the reason is..--Yong Feng (Reply←→Edits) 12:33, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

I was thinking. It may be possible because my grammar are not perfect. But don't worry about that. Because someone else will almost always fix it.--Yong Feng (Reply←→Edits) 00:43, March 10, 2014 (UTC)

Permission to Edit[]

Hi! The sys requirements topic is locked. Any way for me to get access to that section so I can add notes about Steam OS support Thanks!

Wantoosevin (talk) 00:02, April 11, 2014 (UTC)

how to gain a outbreak achievment12:49, April 24, 2014 (UTC)Awsometigeredshark12 (talk)

Revert Summaries[]

Hey, could you please provide meaningful summaries when reverting other people's contributions to the wiki? You have reverted both of my edits to the Scavenge Mode article without specifying a single reason, even after I asked you to. This could potentially lead to edit warring. Thank you. 15:13, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

Bad English and sentencing? Perhaps. English is not my first language. Pointless? Not at all. It's a useful tactic that allows survivors to throw cans over fences and high walls, which could save them a lot of time. Many people use it, and I don't see why there shouldn't be any mention of it in the article. 12:04, May 3, 2014 (UTC)

The New Survivor (Member)[]

So, basically I just started like, what, 2 weeks ago? Actually this is Ironic since the game started 2 weeks after the First Infection and this Message I left you started 2 weeks after I joined. Anyways, Hi! My name is Vincetick, as you can see already, you can call me Vince for short. Anyways, since I forgot to join back in 2010, i decided to join now, which was a stupid idea. I Originally planned to join back in September 2010, but I got distracted, so I just joined recently. Anyways, to make things short. Hi! By the way, are there still other users here?

- Vincetick! :D (talk) 15:10, June 28, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, why did you remove my edit on the Hunting Rifle page? It was valid info. SuperVegito1229 (talk) 13:55, July 5, 2014 (UTC)

Hi there iwould like to ask why you removed my edit on mercy hospital about payday it was also valid info.  In case you think i made up the info here is the proof:  http://youtu.be/o9PGpkZNQKg

Tech Mech (talk) 01:26, July 29, 2014 (UTC)

Hi its me agian why do you keep reverting the Payday trivia? An answer would be nice.

Tech Mech (talk) 19:58, October 17, 2014 (UTC)

Assault Rifle edit revert[]

Why do you keep reverting it? It's Left 4 Dead stats are the same as it's Left 4 Dead 2 stats, so listing them both is a redundancy. GAMEZOOOONE (talk) 00:26, November 17, 2014 (UTC)


Regarding your removal of my edit to the AK-47 page[]

Under the 'Pros' tab of the AK-47 page, I added "Only rifle that keeps the flashlight pointing forward during reload." You quickly removed the edit without comment.

I'm not going to revert the removal (your opinion holds more weight than mine), but I was just curious why that is not considered a valid pro. It is in fact the only rifle with this capability; the M16 and SCAR both point the flashlight straight up as you switch magazines, which affects my gameplay on dark maps. On most campaigns the player spends a lot of time eliminating small pockets of zombies while moving forward, which translates to frequent reloads of partially-empty magazines. When holding the SCAR or (to a lesser extent) the M16 I semi-regularly find myself weighing the factors of reloading and temporarily not being able to see my way. The AK's quality of retaining visibility during reload is, to me, a notable perk and worthy of mention when comparing it to the other two rifles. Aabicus (talk) 02:52, March 14, 2015 (UTC)

Gaming footers[]

Hi, 06abrahb!

I was wondering if you had an opinion on this site being included in the new gaming footers? We'd love for the Left 4 Dead community to be included!

Best regards,

Raylan13 (talk) 20:15, September 22, 2015 (UTC)


Hello, Updating articles and infboxboxes.[]

I did the Wikia updated/convert for infoboxes to the new portable infoboxes format which is optimized for easy vieweing and mobile support, such as Template:Infobox survivor and Template:Infobox video game but Template:Infobox Location/Draft cannot be approved as Template:Infobox Location is locked, I hope you can approve it. That's all I can do for now, good luck. --Jacob Mrox (talk) 21:36, July 17, 2016 (UTC)

Holding down the fort[]

06abrahb, thank you. The wiki was deserted by myself and the other admins but you've managed to stick around. Seriously, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Hopefully I'm back a lot more now, but thank you for holding down the fort and probably holding it all together! I've just been through deleting some troll pages - what admin rights do you have? Can you delete pages? I'm just curious. You're the only active admin other than me, so it would make sense for you to have a little more admin rights if you're lacking any.

Anyway, just wanted to say thanks! You rock. --Five Dog Talk 04:34, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Holding Down the Fort[]

Hey Five Dog! Your back! I've been trying to keep up with this wiki... thank you for your comments! I have been given administrator and Bureaucrat status; I can delete pages and rollback vandalism I just haven't seen those new troll pages. Sorry. I'll try to keep a better eye out for that and periodically check. Thanks again and welcome back! --06abrahb (talk) 21:32, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

Oh no don't worry, you've been doing a fantastic job, I just wanted to make sure that you had enough admin access. :)
I'll change that on the admins page real quick because right now you're still listed as a 'Janitor' but given that you were the last admin standing I think you're quite a bit more than that, haha. If there's anything that you want to get done on the wiki or anything like that, let me know if I can help! --Five Dog Talk 23:16, October 22, 2016 (UTC)

Things I'd Like to run by you![]

First off, what do you think of the new wiki background? How does it look on your computer, does it look okay? It'll stretch/shrink a bit depending on your monitor, but hopefully you can see at least one Survivor's face! And even if it does work fine, what do you actually think of it, think it works?

Second, I've made the template: Template:Needs Testing. It's a little blue citation for reference that can be put next to information that needs verification. Like this. [?] I know we have the more general testing infobox that gets put at the top of the article in question, but I've seen a couple of things in the wiki I'd love to have someone confirm, do some fact checking etc. If I haven't made it clear what I'm talking about, hopefully if you look at the template you'll get an idea of what I mean!

And finally, I wanted to run those things by you! We're on even footing and any good wiki runs on teamwork. :) I didn't want to go ahead with these things properly if you disagreed - the wiki background can be reverted and the template isn't being used yet, so it's all still undoable!

Also, let me know if you don't want me bothering you with this sort of thing! I more than understand if you're too busy, have too much going on in life etc.

Anyway, let me know! Cheers. --Five Dog Talk 21:23, October 27, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Things I'd Like to run by you![]

New background looks good. Works perfectly and I see no issues. I think it looks great!

I think the new template is good and gets our point across better about what we are looking for so I approve! :)

Everything looks great! It's good to have you back and thanks for running things by me! :) :)

06abrahb (talk) 02:00, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

A Brand New Campagin[]

Hey, 06abrahb!

As strange as it may sound, Left 4 Dead has a brand new unfinished campaign that was released a little while ago by Turtle Rock Studios (the original Left 4 Dead creators)! I'd really appreciate it if you could check out the forum page I just made to talk about it and what we should do. Cheers buddy. --Five Dog Talk 12:38, November 7, 2016 (UTC)


Custom Campaign Shutdown[]

Hey, 06abrahb.

I'm thinking of completely removing the custom campaigns from the wiki. They're by far the weakest part of the wiki, and no one's around who's played them or knows anything about them to fix them. I've left a message here and I'm giving it three months in case someone strongly objects. Let me know what you think if you get the chance.

Cheers buddy --Five Dog Talk 01:06, February 7, 2017 (UTC)


Article Question[]

Hey there!

MisterWoodhouse from the Fandom Community team here. Would you be interested in chatting with one of our editorial writers about the Left 4 Dead easter eggs in Counter-Strike? - MisterWoodhouse (talk) 16:03, April 15, 2019 (UTC)

Fixed the Port Finale page[]

Hi, 06abrahb. I would like to inform you that someone recently have messed up the Port Finale page by removing some parts and even replaced all the Bill's sacrifice references with Zoey's. I were trying to reverse it but it doesn't seem working so I need your help. I'm really appreciated.

Sullvian (talk) 13:58, May 15, 2019 (UTC)

Back 4 Blood Wiki[]

Hi 06. I am the Wiki Manager for the Back 4 Blood Wiki. Wiki Managers are part-time Fandom Staff who provide support to communities and help resolve issues with editing, formating, coding, etc. We are trying to get this Wiki off the ground as more information is released. I wanted to know if you would be interested in helping with this process due to the game's relationship to the Left 4 Dead series. If not no problem! Take care. --awyman13FandomStaff.png (Talk/Work) 01:46, May 18, 2019 (UTC)

Here to Help[]

Hello, I'm The Embraced One or TEO, and I'm the Fandom Wiki Manager for the Left 4 Dead Wiki as well as an admin on Sekiro and the Hollow Knight Wikis in my free time. I'm here to act as a liaison between you and Fandom Staff and help you and your community. If you ever have any questions or issues related to the Wiki, its features (editing, templates, layouts, etc.), or anything else, feel free to reach out to me on and I will be happy to help out! The Embraced One (talk) 13:35, June 8, 2019 (UTC)The Embraced One


https://left4dead.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/73928393a Turzy310 (talk) 04:29, September 7, 2019 (UTC)


The chapters[]

Hello. Someone renamed articles about game chapters. The wiki looks like a mess now. Can you rename these articles as I stated below? That's exactly how the chapters called in Left 4 Dead games.

Current name Required name
Hotel Hotel (disambiguation) (to make room)
Park Park (disambiguation) (to make room)
Cemetery Cemetery (disambiguation) (to make room)
The Bridge Bridge (disambiguation) (to make room)
The Bridge (Left 4 Dead) The Bridge
Dead Center - 1/4: Hotel Hotel
Dead Center - 2/4: Streets Streets
Dead Center - 3/4: Mall Mall
Dead Center - 4/4: Atrium Atrium
The Riverbank Riverbank
The Underground Underground
The Port Port
Dark Carnival - 1/5: Highway Highway
Dark Carnival - 2/5: Fairground Fairground
Dark Carnival - 3/5: Coaster Coaster
Dark Carnival - 4/5: Barns Barns
Dark Carnival - 5/5: Concert Concert
Swamp Fever - 1/4: Plank Country Plank Country
Swamp Fever - 2/4: Swamp Swamp
Swamp Fever - 3/4: Shanty Town Shanty Town
Swamp Fever - 4/4: Plantation Plantation
Hard Rain -1/5: Milltown Milltown
Hard Rain - 2/5: Sugar Mill Sugar Mill
Hard Rain - 3/5: Mill Escape Mill Escape
Hard Rain - 4/5: Return To Town Return to Town
Hard Rain - 5/5: Town Escape Town Escape
The Parish - 1/5: Waterfront Waterfront
The Parish - 2/5: Park Park
The Parish - 3/5: Cemetery Cemetery
The Parish - 4/5: Quarter Quarter
The Parish - 5/5: Bridge Bridge

R. Kenni (talk) 22:10, April 5, 2020 (UTC)

Looks like this person (User:Turzy310) struck again, and not even on every campaign, which is weird.  I renamed most articles back to what they were before, but a few had little issues that I'm not an experienced enough wiki user to know how to work around:
No_Mercy_-_2/5:_Subway (should be "The Subway")
Crash_Course_-_2/2:_The_Truck_Depot_Finale (should be "Truck Depot Finale")

Hard_Rain_-_1/5:_Milltown (should be "The Milltown")

If you wanted to take the opportunity, we could make the L4D2 Chapter names more accurate to the game by getting rid of the "The" prefixes though, which don't actually appear in L4D2 like they did in L4D1.  I did try to do this myself starting with "The Hotel" to "Hotel", but the disambiguation page for "Hotel" got me into a muddle and while I did my best to rename the redirect pages to remove them from the equation, all I did was accidentally create a few extra redirect pages that just chained together rather than removing the original redirect, sorry for the mess there.
JezMM (talk) 18:31, August 2, 2020 (UTC)

Candidates for deletion[]

Also take a look at this. — R. Kenni (talk) 22:10, April 5, 2020 (UTC)


Hey 06Abrahb. The wiki has fallen into quite disrepair state due vandalism and people renaming the pages into bad ways. So I'm been wondering if you still keeping the wiki in check. Because so far none of admins are active at the moment when there's needing one. For this reason I have requested for adminship and willing to cooperate with local staying editors to get the Wiki in good condition. Being a former head bureaucrat of HTF Wiki mostly for maintenance, former bureaucrat of CS Wiki for both adding new operations and trivia's/notes and former admin of HL Wiki and with my English being far improved compared to back in 2014. I should have no problems with handing admin stuffs around. The only issue I may have is that I cannot use laptop at work due to current COVID-19 issues don't let me use my laptop at my restaurant anymore, but that shouldn't bother me too much.

Here's the page of my RFA

Have a great day

Yong feng (talk) 19:34, May 26, 2020 (UTC)

New Wiki Manager[]

Hey 06abrahb, I am Tephra, the new Wiki Manager for the Left4Dead Wiki. Thatawesomecat stepped down as a Wiki Manager, so I am your replacement. Let me know if you ever need anything.
◄► Tephra ◄► 06:17, June 21, 2020 (UTC)

Alarmed car trivia[]

The alarmed car in the Left 4 Dead series is a 1989 Buick Century by the front orange turn signals. Turzy310 (talk) 03:37, August 13, 2020 (UTC)

Aug12 1.jpg
1989-1990 Buick Century
Aug 12 2.jpg
1991-1996 Buick Century
Aug 12 3.jpg

Double redirects[]

Hey 06abrahb, I noticed this wiki has a lot of Double Redirects. Is fixing these something you would be willing to take care of? I would volunteer to do them for you, but there are nearly fifty of them.
◄► Tephra ◄► 18:40, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

  • 47 double redirects? It isn't so much. I could do something with these. Tephra, do you ever check your user talk page on the wiki you are supposed to be a manager on? R. Kenni 22:40, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Removal of vandalism request[]

Someone moved "Weapons" page to "Nibba", then to "Bullets", then to "Gun". Someone another made "Gun" (the real "Weapons" article) just a redirect, and the redirect "Weapons" is the current weapons page now. Can you check this case more properly? You should delete current version of "Weapons" as well as its talk page and move "Gun" article to "Weapons". R. Kenni 00:50, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

This is my plan how to deal with this situation:

  1. Delete "Weapons" page
  2. Delete "Gun" page
  3. Restore "Weapons page" except of some versions:
  • 15:18, September 3 2019 (zero point, vandalism itself)
  • 00:56, September 7 2019‎ (both edits, some guy tried to remove vandalism but wrong)
  • 18:35, October 26 2019 (Yong feng made the actual page just a redirect)
  • 04:48, July 11 2020‎ (adding wrong categories to now redirect page)
  • 21:09, September 1 2020‎ (removing wrong category)
  • 06:01, September 29 2020‎ (me, trying to fix this mess before realizing this way isn't right)
  • 11:00, September 29 2020‎ (again me, moving the updated content from redirect-became-main-page to actual article)


  • 15:18, September 3 2019‎ (zero point, vandalism itself / redirect page version)
  • 13:25, October 8 2019‎ (some other guy tried to remove vandalism but wrong / redirect page version)
  • 18:35, October 26 2019‎ (Yong feng made the "actual" page out of redirect / redirect page version)
  • 16:36, February 29 2020‎ (another vandal edit / redirect page version)
  • 16:36, February 29 2020‎ (removing this vandal edit / redirect page version)
  • 11:01, September 29 2020‎ (again me, removing all the content from the redirect-became-main-page / redirect page version)

R. Kenni 23:00, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Purple Francis.[]

We need to be able to reference Purple Francis on other pages. If we add the vampire/conjecture tag to the areas that involve Purple Francis, can we continue to tell more about his lore?