Talk:The Passing

See the first page

Its out!
Today the passing came out!

Southparkrulz0ya 12:40, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Peach Shnaps for everyone! DisMEMBAH 13:00, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Oh my god awesome

finaly after long months of debating shit we finaly get to play it, go kick some zombie ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you own it on Xbox, pc users are still waiting and debating shit Fireside

There's a couple new avatar awards included with the DLC. I love you Valve. ;D

Steam is updating Left 4 Dead 2... omfg is this it? :D

Still waiting on my brother to bring back MY ethernet cable, before I can even start downloading it. FML. (Bloodshed269 22:15, April 22, 2010 (UTC)Bloodshed269)

I'm still waiting for my dad to log on as an admin so i can actually play l4d2 again -_-...let alone the passing -67.81.155.120 22:33, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

OK everyone, we gotta sort out the Page now, because it HAS Passed (No Pun Intended) so now we gotta put all the Info in the Past Tense! 94.195.236.134 22:37, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Passing achievements out!
Ladies and Gentlemen, minutes ago, A new blog post came out. And it reveals the new achievements to come out with the Passing. Now we know that there is going to be a Port, and it will be a Scavenge mode. There are going to be foot lockers, and I assume they include random items. The original survivors seem to fight with you in the finale, seeing as they can do damage to the Tank (but maybe in the first level, too.) And one of the game modes may be named Mutation. It's all there in the update, folks. Log Out 01:33, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Darn, wanted to say it, oh well! Apparently the orginal survivors will be at a balcony level, and well, "cover your ass." It looks great, and Mutations? I can't wait! They also said we find out more on a Wednsday post, which is what the supposed release date is, so lets hope for the best!Wizkid5000 01:36, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh also the "Cache Grab" may be a part of a new game mode, so, to Wednsday!Wizkid5000 01:40, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

I suggest we change The Passing's icon on the Campaigns section to the "Torch Bearer"' Achievement's icon. JTFR21 01:46, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, if only I knew how to do that. Also, when you guys read "one of the original survivors is killing zombies in heaven" did you imagine what a campaign would be like where you play as the dead survivor and 3 angels that resemble the other 3 in Heaven? Haha, that would be dumb. Log Out

falls over exhausted* Waaay ahead of you guys. I already got color schemes, and Torch burner up on all possible locations. Also all achievements are up and running on the Achievements page! Jo the Marten ( Shriek )  ಠ_ಠ  01:51, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Great! Thanks Jo! Oh Also are you going to change the Golf Club as well for the "Fore!" Achievement? Wizkid5000 02:38, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

I hope that it isn't ONLY the original survivors who have to do the damage. But I am so pumped for this! Dalekdude101 02:57, April 20, 2010 (UTC)Dalekdude101

(Edit: I also guess that Mutation, is like versus. Instead of being incapped once you run out of health, the infected team gain a new human controlled player. So like, if Ellis dies, he turns into a hunter(?) I've had this idea for awhile.)

Who is that on the Kite Like a Man achievement picture? With love, MrJoe. 03:04, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Personally I think it looks like Francis. Jo the Marten ( Shriek )  ಠ_ಠ  03:20, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

I may be wrong (probably am :P) sorta looks like Louis... with an AK and laser sight? :O.... plus, is it just me, or does the med pack in the "grave robber" achievement look like a bag of potato chips or something xD NewbieSim 03:29, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

I had to look at the Grave Robber One a couple of times to understand what I was looking at. Dalekdude101 12:06, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

I thought the molotov was wine, the med-pack was chips, and the "PEELZ" were, like, a cup for the wine. NomNom 20:11, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

(Edit: NewbieSim, that is an AK With a Laser Sight. But, look at his shirt thing. It looks like Nicks Suit in my opinion.)





I thought that too, but the lack of hair made me think otherwise. Jo the Marten ( Shriek )  ಠ_ಠ  13:32, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Who wears a suit AND is bald? Louis. It's Louis. Francis has short hair but isn't bald, the person in the achievement icon is bald. Therefore, Louis. I wonder if that means anything in the way of who dies for real. Log Out 22:20, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Well, now it looks like Bill because of the beret.  LaZa 22:48, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

I still think the new image looks like Chef Boyardee. Dalekdude101 23:37, April 20, 2010 (UTC)Dalekdude101

== Passing on Thursday==

Todays blog post said The Passing is coming out april 22 (Thrusday/tomorrow),also it has been revealed that there will be over 20 "mutations" weekly game modes exclusive to passing owners including "chainsaw macaque" where everyone has unlimited gas but (probably) only chainsaws, and versus realism.

Southparkrulz0ya 11:51, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Is this really out tomorrow
ok people is this really out tomorrow or not because I keep hearing by the end of the week or next week or tomorrow please can somebody tell me when its out its annoying that they keep changing the release dates GRRR

1. Sing your posts 2. I do want to know it it does come out tomorrow. GeneralOwnage55 The Message Box  17:50, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

it should be out within the next two days. dynamicgrimking april 20, 2010

== The Passing is comfirmed for Thursday.==

Everyone I read its been comfirmed for Thursday instead of Wednesday

most places say that because the blogs say "Look for most of the answers in our Wednesday blog post" hinting towards a posible thursday release date. dynamicgrimking april 20, 2010

Yes, but that's just hinting at Thursday release date. I think that's an educated guess, but try not to pin a specific date on it till they give us one. Remember how we were all freaking out in March, and then it didn't come? Nightmirage 19:08, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

do remember we didnt have a achievement list in march or an offical blog posting saying it comes out this week. after my last post i read a artical the DLC should be out thursday if it is true this makes the thursday release date correct. dynamicgrimking april 20, 2010.

This is true, but we did have pictures and videos in February and still didn't get it in March. I'm not saying that it won't be this week-I trust Valve to not get us this excited until they know that we'll definitely get it this week, but I wouldn't count on any date until they actually tell us. Nightmirage 19:24, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

there are always videos and screenshots of games and DLC before they come out thats how they get people to want them. if you read the artical i posted a link to they say "in a recent Xbox Live e-mail to the press they dated the release as thursday april 22nd" dynamicgrimking april 20, 2010

http://pc.ign.com/articles/108/1084774p1.html - It comes out this Thursday, April 22nd. (Bloodshed269 19:43, April 20, 2010 (UTC)Bloodshed269)

I doubt it will be out on Thursday because Zoey's voice actor needs to finish her lines off for The Passing

Where did you hear/read this? (Bloodshed269 21:14, April 20, 2010 (UTC) Bloodshed269)

The official blog post said that it would come out this week- they didn't just say it's a possibility, they said it was a guarantee. It IS coming out this week.

EDIT: just as I was viewing this talk page, I got a message saying The Passing is confirmed for the 22nd. Case closed. http://www.l4d.com/blog/post.php?id=3729 Log Out 22:27, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Mutations
Okay, so we know the achievements are out, cool. But some new info on the two new game modes are out. The achievement "Mutant Overlord" reveals information on "Mutations". What are mutations, well in my opinion, it is a mutated Special Infected with new abilities. Like A Smoker that can pull two Survivors at once, or a Spitter that can suicide by exploding and cause puddles of spit to fly everywhere. Feel free to discuss your opinions and wait for Wednesday for the revealing of what this means.  Pikmin  1254 

In the article I read, it said "The Passing also introduces a series of weekly game mode events dubbed "Mutations". These week longruns of new gameplay modes range from "Realism Versus" mode to "Chainsaw Massacre", which gives all players chainsaws with an unlimited supply of gasoline. There are over 20 "Mutations" planned, each playable on all L4D2 campaigns. Mutations are exclusively available to owners of "The Passing" DLC." I found that in this article:http://pc.ign.com/articles/108/1084774p1.html (Bloodshed269 20:52, April 20, 2010 (UTC)Bloodshed269)

Survivor temporarily turns into a Tank (complete custom job wearing ripped old clothing ala the Hulk), but cannot use weapons for the duration of being a Tank. However, they now have increased HP and rock throwing to compensate as well as TANK SMASH punch. Naturally, Survivor tactics change until the Tank eventually reverts back into the Survivor with magically fixed clothing.

... I'm just kidding, haha. :D Sera404 20:48, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

I think this Chainsaw Massacre will ruin it, if its a true source. I mean, I was kinda hoping for something original and new in the new Game modes, now just 2 slapped together. Thanks alot Valve. Thanks for not doing your homework.Dalekdude101 21:24, April 20, 2010 (UTC)Dalekdude101

But what if there's a mutation that let's you play as the L4D1 survivors? A random thought that occured to me. Or even an 8-player co-op mutation. Yes, I am thinking near-nonsense, but Chet DID state that 8 player co-op might be a reality (albeit a while ago), and Mutations seems like a good place to put it every so often. Dragon1300 23:39, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

read thisanother artical about Mutation

== VALVE TROLLS US!==

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/855/comparisonkg.jpg

THEY HAVE CHANGED THE ACHIEVEMENT TILE FROM LOUIS TO BILL!

DISSCUSS!JokersFlame 20:35, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Soooooooo, how is this so bad? VaultGuru 20:37, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

They are toying with us mad hard because we know it's going to be one of those two that dies in canon! Maybe who shows up on the icon depends on which 3 Survivors are present when you get the achievement? Either way it looks like Bill and Louis have blaster guns with which to take down the Tank. I so want one. Nightmirage 20:40, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Its not bad....Only strange they are trying to keep this a secret still.JokersFlame 20:41, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

The new one looks like Chef Boyardee in my opinion.Dalekdude101 21:23, April 20, 2010 (UTC)Dalekdude101

Gosh, that beret looks like it's glued to Bill's head, nothing makes it fall. Well speaking about this, I don't think that means something about who dies. Just some little troll adding to the delayed and long wait of the DLC. -- LaZa 21:52, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

HUH WTH Rooftops
they have got to be kidding us. how the hell are the new survivors supposed to speak with the originals if they are always on the friggin rooftops DAMMIT VALVE Also a chainsaw gameplay mode fuck off I never use chainsaws I hate them

...Sign your posts....also Think of the new mutation mode like the Halo 3 DBXP Weekend deal....New gametypes every weekend.JokersFlame 20:50, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

You don't need to swear it's just a game,...but an awesome one.L4D101 21:20, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Unpleasable fanbase- "Hey dude here's some FREE content from the best game developing company in America! Enjoy"

"WHAT WHAT THE HELL OH MY GOD YOU RUINED EVERYTHING I HATE YOU FOR FORCING ME TO PLAY THIS" Log Out 22:36, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. What is it with our inability to accept anything Valve is doing for the game as a good thing? Makes me think of some comment I believe Adam Sessler made about the fandom and how we were "hugged too much" where we got used to everything going exactly our way. If we keep giving such reactions, Valve's not gonna want to do stuff for the L4D fans since the majority of us wouldn't appreciate it anyway. Seriously guys, we're more mature than this. Or at least I hope we are.... Wave Maker 23:00, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Nobody said they'd be on the rooftops the whole time. Maybe that's where they are in chapter 2. I could be wrong of course, but I believe VALVe said the L4D and L4D2 survivors interact in the 1st and 3rd chapters. Although I could be wrong, I'm just saying, don't jump to any conclusions. LazyLord777 00:06, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

When you think about it, maybe they are talking (if they stay indoors/ not on balcony yet) through an intercom like Whitaker. Besides, they aren't on a rooftop, they are on a second story balcony... I pretty sure we could still hear them clearly and see them. NewbieSim 03:20, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

The Passing
Ok so its rumoured to be Thursday well I really really hope that the survivors will come down from the rooftops and what do they mean by there will be new gameplay modes everyday I dont want to use chainsaws I hate them in Left 4 Dead 2 and I never use them

Calm down, It's one example out of 19 other 'Mutations'. Besides, I don't use the chainsaw either, but heck, it'll be hilarious with 4 survivors running around, slaughtering everything with unlimited chainsaw gas. If you're REALLY that mad about having to use chainsaws, then just don't play it for that week...and, even if it is from IGN, it still isn't 100% official. Dragon1300 22:26, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Is it known if any of these mutations will be available after the mutation's weeks are done? -- LaZa 22:43, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

My guess is that they'll all be available permanently once they are released and they're essentailly minigames. Who knows, though. Log Out 22:53, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that Mutations is a gameplay mode that you can choose to play just like Versus or campaign, not a new element that you are forced to play for a week. They wont MAKE you use nothing but a chainsaw for a week. If you dont like the event don't play Mutations that week.

Kite like a man
By the look of kite like a man, you wont be able to be in contact with the old suvivors there probably covering you from some roof or balcony like in the achievement picture :(

Ok Valve isn't as brain-dead as you may think. They KNOW that players want to see interactions between the two groups, and they're giving us that. But this is a campaign where you kill zombies, not a campaign where you spend the whole time talking to this other group. It is likely that you will talk to them right at the beginning or at the end of the first level, then go through the second level, then talk with them in the third level. My guess is that they'll only be on the rooftops in the finale, but who knows. Log Out 22:45, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Not to mention that they already talked about a few possible interactions between old and new survivors that were planned. Seems like it'd be very hard for some of them to happen if they never met other than with one of the groups on balconies. I'm pretty sure the achievement's only for a specific part of the campaign, and that the old survivors will show up on solid ground at at least one point during it. Wave Maker 23:05, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

If they ever show up on solid ground, it would probably be the finale. But, what happens to them after the new survivors escape? Dragon1300 23:09, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

VALVe said that Nick and Francis were going to fight with each other, maybe the two groups split up to avoid a conflict. LazyLord777 00:09, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

At the risk of sounding like a troll I was dissapointed, dont get me wrong I think its the funnest campaign in l4d2, but there are several things that valve just plainflat out lied about, no, francis and nick dont fight. IN FACT the only conversations Ive heard between them was ellis and francis talking about vampires and cars ( that made me happy face) but it still didnt live up to what valve said, if they didnt flat out lie, the mislead us, but it was an amazing campaign, with the possiblility of being more amazing. Id give it an average 8, the campaign was a 9, but valves bullsh** was enough for me to take a whole grade off. As LogOut Said above me it is about killing zombies, but they didnt even show bill dying a MANS death, they crippled louis, I guess that was them saying F**K YOU YOU PRESSURED US THIS IS WHAT YOU GET JACKA**ES, and I kinda agree with valve, but they just got lazy or just didnt think the flamers and trolls that spammed their inbox deserved a finished product. The most we can hope for now as for old survivors would be a mutation gametype where you play as them. Even that's stretching it. 71.72.184.211 01:40, April 23, 2010 (UTC)Merpmaster25

GASP maybe just like the posters in the blog post, the dead survivors will cycle. since louis was crippled, Im guessing hes next weeks dead man

Louis? You there Brother...
Louis is no longer on The Passing's poster on the blog! And like said above, is no longer on the Kite Like A Man achivement! Is he dead!Wizkid5000 22:55, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

You'll see, Bill is the one going to end dead. or... maybe not...  LaZa 22:57, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure? It looks like Francis is the one missing from the poster. Look again. Log Out 22:58, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

If the original model from Death Toll's poster is to be believed, then it is indeed Louis who is gone. Is anyone else thinking that it's not going to be random on who dies...? Dragon1300 23:09, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

OMG! Now its Zoey missing! Valve is toying with showing the randomness in the game! So will the loading poster show us the ones that will be in that game? all is to be revealed!Wizkid5000 23:09, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

I have done a bit of refreshing, and the poster does keep changing.FaythOfFenrir 23:09, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Oh I see, every time you refresh the blog, the image changes. That means we should change the poster on the article to prevent confusion. Log Out 23:10, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Funny, still looks like Bill's missing when I refresh. Valve has probably been checking internet speculation and realized that most people suspect Bill or Louis and so they're trying to mess with our minds. The only way to be completely prepared is to expect the least likely one...Oh God, Zoey, be careful! (/joke) Wave Maker 23:11, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

It seems to now be stuck on Francis missing for me. FaythOfFenrir 23:13, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like it's on a rotation thing, it only changes once every minute or so. Log Out 23:14, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, Valve. It seems to be random after all. BTW, I would assume that they're just testing all the loading posters (I.E. If the director chooses Francis to die, Francis will be missing from the poster, and if it's Zoey, She'll be missing, ect.). A relief, isn't it? :) Dragon1300 23:15, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Or maybe they're just ROFLing while all of the L4D and L4D2 players get confused a lot, but yeah, indeed, if it is that way, it's a relief.  LaZa 23:18, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

I see Zoey Missing!! >:OOO Dalekdude101 23:19, April 20, 2010 (UTC)Dalekdude101

Not Zoey or Bill this time D: Francis? Oye.... damn you Valve >.< *shakes fists* NewbieSim 23:20, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Suddendly I saw all of them. This is like an epic videogame mindfuck.  LaZa 23:23, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Wow...I'm stuck on Louis. EDIT: Wait, Zoey went Bye-Bye. Dragon1300 23:26, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

I've seen 2 posters. One missing Louis, and the other Zoey.Dalekdude101 23:28, April 20, 2010 (UTC)Dalekdude101

Only seen Louis so far. With love, MrJoe. 23:29, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

This is called for With love, MrJoe. 23:50, April 20, 2010 (UTC) (forgot): http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/5516/l4dead.png

Wow... Valve is really screwing with us.Dalekdude101 23:32, April 20, 2010 (UTC)Dalekdude101

Ya think? LaZa put it best; it's an epic videogame mindfuck, with Valve toying with what's canon and what's not, changing its reality at a whim. Dragon1300 23:35, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

So for a second when I refreshed it was just a white screen. No blog. I screamed. With love, MrJoe. 23:51, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

You know, now that I think so, maybe they're taking turns to get into that funny little place they're near...  LaZa 00:26, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

The four L4D2 Survivors probably look deformed because of the MUTATION game play mode!

The Kite the power and the posters?....MAKE UP YOUR MIND VALVE!68.38.207.21 01:22, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Guys dont trut valve! They are messing around with us! They wont post the real poster, because they want it to be a surpirse!♥Boomette♥ 01:28, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, now I'm pretty sure about this! The poster changes everytime you play. And if Zoey is missing: no Zoey in game. If Louis is missing: no Louis in game. And same with Bill and Francis. ŊυĐε 11:29, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Im not sure about that, but I swear to god I just saw Waldo. DisMEMBAH 17:20, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Um shouldn't we put the poster with all four on until it's announced who's dead? The wikia page makes it as if Louis is the one who's dead. Just upload the one with all 4 on and leave it up until it's announced. Earisu 21:55, April 21, 2010 (UTC)



Im sorry but I couldent resist!JokersFlame 02:21, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Oh wow, bigfoot. That's amazing. Log Out 02:37, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Joker, you sir, are the coolest guy. Awesome work. I am seriously not joking. DisMEMBAH 12:20, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

== The Port==

One of the area names confirmed. FaythOfFenrir 23:06, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

No offense but this is old news. Log Out 23:11, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

Eh, sorry. FaythOfFenrir 23:12, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

About the 4/20/10 update with The Passing poster...
Okay, from what I'm reading from above, could it be possible that the poster changes (in gameplay) to remove any one of the original survivors who don't show up out of the four (If the theory that the dead survivor is randomnized).... OR, it could be that Valve is just messing with our heads. POSTER UPDATE: Now Bill is gone :/ UPDATE #2: Just realized, the L4D2 survivors still look deformed, so I guess they werent reedited NewbieSim 23:17, April 20, 2010 (UTC)

I see Zoey missing D: Dalekdude101 23:19, April 20, 2010 (UTC)Dalekdude101

Edit: I think These are the possible campaign loading posters. I've tried uploading the two I've seen so far, but it says "User Rights Error" ?

I have my doubts that this is the final poster design anyway, the tagline is still not there. LazyLord777 00:16, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

I see a missing survivor in each poster.Chubbyhug 00:20, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Guys Zoey is already in it! The picture of NICK with the golfclub, zoey is right behind him on that building! So you know she survived, and Louis is on the Achievment! So its either FRANCIS or BILL who dies! And besides, Zoey cant die, or it would be sextist, and Louis cant die, or it would be racist! So either way, Bill or Francis is going to die. VALVE is just messing with us, they want it to be a surpirse! But with this imfo im giving you now, its kinda clear on whos going to survive!Boomette 00:35, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Boomette, following that logic, if Francis or Bill die, I can say that it's sexist against men or/and racist against white people, and Infected do not discriminate, they kill everyone, and finally no one is safe from a Zombie apocalypse. -- LaZa 00:44, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

LaZa you are so right... Either way it wont be fair! Wow you cannot win in a Zombie apocalypse huh? Boomette 00:46, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

No one wins and nothing's fair at war of any type. But well, let's wait for Valve to release official news on who dies, either way, where did all this Survivor dying started? Valve said it or just some rumour that reached Valve's hands? LaZa 01:28, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Valve said only 3 survivors make it, one sacirfices themself. I highly dout that its going to be Zoey though, because she is already in that picture of Nick holding the golfclub... unless Valve took it on purpose to think she was the one who survived... Wait im confusing myself..♥Boomette♥ 01:30, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'm guessing that Valve made sure Zoey was in the shot to show that she would survive. Besides, Valve would never kill off Zoey because then they'd make 99% of the L4D1 fanbase eternally pissed off. She's too popular and cute to die. As for the achievement, it was Louis at first but they sneakily changed it to Bill. Look at it again. Francis is the only one who hasn't been mentioned in a Passing-related blog post, read into that as you will. Log Out 01:52, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

I knew it! I saw how they switched Louis to Bill! BUT WAIT! Chet said that Nick and FRANCIS would fight during the passing!? ♥Boomette♥ 01:54, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, to clarify things, the whole "Zoey and Ellis interaction", as well as the "Nick and Francis arguments" are said to be POSSIBLE storyline outcomes, chosen randomly by the Director. Meaning, each time you play, the interactions between survivors CHANGE... I mean, if Chet had said it differently (i.e 'Bill and Coach will relate about their positions' or 'Louis and Rochelle may have faint remembrance of each other') then opinion would have changed saying that Bill and Louis were gonna survive and vice versa.... you catch my drift? NewbieSim 03:09, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, guys. I think all this "But Zoey was in the screenshot!" is meaningless. I think The survivors will switch each time you play. Example; The first time you play The Passing, Bill will be dead. Then the next time you play The Passing, Francis will be dead. I think the A.I. Director will switch it up each time. L4Der 03:42, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

But that dosnt make since! That means each time we play the new DLC for L4D1, the survivor who sacrifices themself, changes each time? I dont like that very much! Because if they are making a L4D3, then who in the world is going to be in it from L4D1, if the survivor who dies is random? They shouldnt have done that! It would have been way more dramtic if only one person sacrifced themselfs for all 3! That means, each time you play the new DLC for L4D1, the survivor will randomly die? Wow.. I dont like it very much. And that probily means there wont be a L4D3, since we dont know FOR SURE who dies if it is random.♥Boomette♥ 16:34, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Unless of course they come up with a whole new set for characters.........( Keith has my vote, he sounds like a rightous dude. )

But that's besides the point. The point is that it's up to Valve to decide what gameplay mechanics and how exactly the two games will interact with each other. If it was going to be some screwed up thing that we have no way of understanding, they would't have announced it in the first place. Whatever it may be, I can assure that I have 110% confidence in Valve to blow my mind like they did with Half life and (of course) Left 4 Dead. Nuff' said.DisMEMBAH 17:32, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

What? Boomette, I don't think you get this. In the Left 4 Dead 1 DLC, you the players get to decide who you sacrifice. Then the comic will tell us who is the one who ACTUALLY dies. And in The Passing it's random each time so it doesn't spoil anything and so you get to see everyone so they don't piss off everyone who likes the dead person. Also, who decided that the old survivors would have to appear in every L4D game ever made? If they do make a L4D3, which I doubt they will, it doesn't mean any of the previous survivors will ever appear. It just wouldn't make sense. Log Out 00:12, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

OOOOH! So the comic says who really dies, and VALVe lets you decide because its much funner and its not the same ending over and over! They wanted to change things up a little! So there is only one REAL survivor who actully dies then! Wow.. Sorry about that Log Out, im just kinda slow as you can see! But thanks for getting me on track again! I was lost for a moment their!♥Boomette♥ 00:18, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Watch as the Next Blog Post is the names of the Chapters.
I betcha. Theres gonna be a final blog post tommorow, with the chapter names. If they do, I have some possible ideas... Stuff..

Chapter One: The Wedding

Chapter Two: The Sewer

Chapter Three: The Port FinaleDalekdude101 23:36, April 20, 2010 (UTC)Dalekdude101

Port finale would make sense. The survivors reach a bridge that spans the water that can;t be crossed so they have to go around the bay and then lower the bridge. Then they run across the bridge back to the car. Makes perfect sense, actually. Log Out 01:54, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Wow that makes so much sense! But how would the old survivors escape?♥Boomette♥ 01:56, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Well... assuming they arrived in Jimmy Gibbs's car and leave with Jimmy Gibbs's, wouldn't that mean that they would be at The Port in chapter 1 and 3? Maybe the names would be like Hard Rain (Chapter 1 being The Port and chapter 3 being Port escape). Plus, I don't think Valve would reuse a name from L4D1. ([The Sewer] comes from No Mercy). The only exception to this rule would be The Bridge... but even that had a bunch of beta names (Table Bridge, Lift Bridge)

Adding on, I think maybe the original survivors are in some sort of control room for the bridge (assuming again, if the bridge seen in the posted picture is the way out), but the power to the bridge is out, so the new survivors have to go across town to turn the power on or something.... NewbieSim 03:03, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Most likely, the Original Survivors will provide power to the bridge and they'll provide fire support from the balcony. 202.40.134 03:15, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Also a viable approach to the finale. DisMEMBAH 17:34, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

The First Kite Like a Man icon was Francis, not Louis
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9722/chet2.jpg

Thinks don't seem to be looking too good for Louis. According to Chet, the icon was Francis but was changed to Bill. And Zoey was already confirmed to appear in the Passing along with Francis, so I'm afraid things look dim for him.

wait, not looking so good in that he dies? isn't the director suppost to have a survivor die IN the game? not pre decided? or i could be wrong here........DisMEMBAH 17:14, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Man, should have asked him this earlier when I was playing Modern Warfare with him (He's good, playing Free-for-all I got 2nd and he came in a close 3rd).

They are everywhere...
This is getting creepy... Realism Versus was my idea, I said about it here... They are watching us... Or VALVe just had same idea with me. Oh, btw: I tried to be funny there, so you don't need to start calling me idiot. (That have happened)

Lolwut? I pressed signature button...? ŊυĐε 12:53, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

DUDE SAME HERE! LAST YEAR WHEN L4D2 WAS NOT EVEN ANNOUCED, I WAS TALKING TO MY FRIENDS, IF THEY CAME OUT WITH A NEW CAMPAIGN FOR L4D2, IT WOULD BE AT A CARNIVAL! THEN MY FRIEND LAST SUMMER, ME AND HIM MADE UP SURVIVORS, MINE WAS KARA HIS WAS KEITH! AND LOOK WHOS IN L4D2 EVERY STORY, KEITH! THEN BEFORE THE PASSING WAS RELEASED, I MADE A NEW CAMPAIGN THAT HAPPENS IN GEORGIA?! WOW! THEY ARE REALLY STALKING US! AND I PROMISE, IM NOT MAKING ANY OF THIS UP! I SO BELIEVE YOU (That have happend)♥Boomette♥ 15:03, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

ow! my ears! stop the CAPS raging! s'not cool man! s'not cool.

but I hear ya (if you'll pardon the pun) I would totally assume that Valve is listening to the fan base, inputs, ideas for new DLC's, ect. after all, why would they release new content of no one was going to play it? ( or buy it on the 360 ) Creepy Valve stalker bastards........*flinches in chair hoping Valve dosen't send headcrabs after offender* (That have happened)DisMEMBAH 16:45, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Haha. It is kinda creepy though...♥Boomette♥ 16:49, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

I have something to confess. I work for Valve!GeneralOwnage55 The Message Box  16:55, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Sure you do, then answer this quiestion: Why is the survivor that dies randomly selected?♥Boomette♥ 16:57, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Why not? :) GeneralOwnage55 The Message Box  16:59, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ya I still dont believe you work for VALVe...♥Boomette♥ 17:00, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Its a joke. GeneralOwnage55 The Message Box  17:03, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Exactly!♥Boomette♥ 17:05, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

oh man we are SO gonna get "off topic" flagged....DisMEMBAH 17:09, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Just a little..♥Boomette♥ 17:14, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

It's randomly selected so you can see interactions with ALL survivors. It doesn't take a rocket scientist (or a Valve) worker to tell you that. Log Out 00:16, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Mutations?
I really hope that one of the Mutations will be where we get to p0lay as the original survivors. anyone else think that

hopefully. I mean what is the point of bringing back the olriginal survivors, if they just stay on roofs? I think VALVe knows that people wont like that as much, so they probily are going to have a mutation that we able to play as the old survivors!♥Boomette♥ 16:29, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

It would be a very interesting gameplay mechanic, for sure. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere (on this wiki?) that the orginal survivors would show up in the beginning and in the finale. Here's hoping they get some cool new character models! DisMEMBAH 16:40, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Haha and hopefully Louis isnt as annoying, and hopefully Francis still hates everything! ♥Boomette♥ 16:42, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

waht i find interesting is why they decided to kill off one of the originals. there has to be SOMEONE out there who is like "why,man?" I mean, I'm like that. If they played like me then no one would have died. but then again, thats why it's called "The Passing" I guess...DisMEMBAH 16:47, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

No. Its called The Passing, because the new and old survivors cross paths. It has nonthing to do with a survivor dieing. The new DLC for L4D1 has the details on what happens♥Boomette♥ 16:52, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

CURSE you and your superior researching skills! DisMEMBAH 17:08, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

What?♥Boomette♥ 17:14, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

well I read that naming idea here, so thats why i thought it was called "The Passing". makes sense, no?

Oh right, but use your signature next time!♥Boomette♥ 17:23, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

oopsy daisy. DisMEMBAH 17:33, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

I actually put that idea somewhere up above, on the first mention of mutations. Idea stealer!...

Joke, but yeah, I'd like that. Along with 8-player co-op, maybe? (But now that I really think about it, if 8 player co-op is going to happen in mutations, the difficulty will have to be ramped up, like all infected have more HP, or they're more numerous, or the like.) Dragon1300 18:57, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think it'd be fun to have a bunch of zombies on fire who do fire damage to the survivors. LazyLord777 19:07, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Guys! There wont be 8-player co-op If there is only 7 Survivors!! Chet shouldnt have said that if they were going to KILL one of the old survivors, so now it would be 7-player co-op! Thats why there is not going to be an 8-player co-op!♥Boomette♥ 19:15, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

There IS such a thing as non-canon. The entire 8-player co-op experience would be non-canon due to it being impossible for all of them to be there at once. (And I do admit that the passing should be barred off if there is some miracle and something like it gets put in.) And why do I always forget to sign first? Dragon1300 19:21, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

haha. But ya I agree with Dragon1300.♥Boomette♥ 19:23, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah 8 player co-op? not happening. although that would be some major carnage.

Unless of course they make a ghost survivor. OH MAN that would be frikkin' awesome!

..............

shutting up now. DisMEMBAH 20:22, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Zoey hating Rochelle.
Is this true some twat told me on here that Zoey will hate Rochelle this mustnt be true why the hell would they fight for god sake I hope they really dont. I think I wouldnt download it if they were to fight also what does it mean by Zoey is alive in canon WTH?

I think that's crap. The only confirmed interaction involving Zoey that we have is Ellis developing a crush on her. Personally, I believe Zoey and Rochelle will be happy to find that there is another female Survivor. Nightmirage 19:34, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

98% of the L4D fanbase already hates Rochelle, Valve wouldn't agree with them as they know it would hurt one of their new characters significantly. Besides, Zoey is a really nice, logical girl. She wouldn't hate a person that she just met. (unlike Nick) Log Out 00:20, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Or unlike Francis. Hes probily going to be like "I hate new survivors..." haha.♥Boomette♥ 00:24, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

LOL. that first post had a funny word in it.

my question is: why does everyone hate Rochelle? I don't hate Rochelle. I say y'all are Trollin Francis style!

" I hate different." X*DDisMEMBAH 12:28, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Well... I hate her because this: X incapasitated Rochelle. "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH BOYS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH HEEEEEEEELP AAAAAAAAAH" NuDe 84.249.233.167 12:53, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, dosen't Ellis do that too? OMGWTFBBQ. I mean, if a hunter was tearin' into me I would be all "HE STOLE MY ENTRAILS! I NEED THOSE MAN!"DisMEMBAH 12:56, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yea, I know. But Ellis is god damn zombie killing machine! Rochelle is.... .... woman.... And she screams way more than Ellis. NuDe 84.249.233.167 13:00, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

OoOoOoOoOoO....... he played the "woman" card!!!!!! LOL. But I hear ya brother. she does. Do you represent the We Hate Rochelle guild? DisMEMBAH 13:33, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lolwut? No. Rochelle is just so ******* annoying. NuDe 84.249.233.167 13:39, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Let me share why I hate her. For starters, I don't like her face. Simple as that. I also hate how she makes those annoying screams when she's down. It's like, I'm either reviving her or am only two feet away from her and she's screaming like an opera singer. And this may be a coincidence, but every time something bad happens it is her fault and whenever everyone has to rely on her to solve the problems, she screws up even more. One time, Nick and Coach were too far away to save me (Ellis) so I had to rely on Rochellle to save me. RIGHT when she was about to fully revive me (literally a micro second away from finishing) she just drops what she is doing because there was a Tank ten feet away from her. I was also gonna grab some pills, but she took them and ate them right away. Speaking of pills, when I was at the verge of dying (in the red) instead of giving me her pills she ate them herself (she was only in the orange). I can't stand her. She always fucks up everything. EVERYTHING. One time, just to be safe, I killed her at the beginning of the game so she wouldn't be able to ruin it all. And that is why I hate Rochelle.Xboxannihilator 22:13, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

dead survivor
i think that, if it is one survivor set in stone to die on all games everywhere and its just them that it shouldnt be put on here for at least a few days to not spoil the passing for people who havent played itSmish34 19:32, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

It randomly changes each time you play of course. They shouldnt have done that, they should have just had one survivor die.♥Boomette♥ 19:46, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

They probably made it so that it would switch everytime to prevent spoiling the comic that'll be coming out later. They want people to be surprised when they first read it, not already know cause they played the campaign. Wave Maker 21:47, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

But Wave Maker, people on WIKI keep saying that each time you play, an old survivor randomly dies..♥Boomette♥ 00:00, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Oh ok now I know what your saying, but if thats true, and when the new comic is really out, then they will probily have to go change the passing up a little, and I dont think they would go through all this trouble keep this secrete safe.. I think its the truth that they are randomly selected to die... wait if thats true then there would be like 4 comics... And they dont have that much money to do 4 Comics cause not everyone will read all of them! Ok! Thanks Wave Maker! It took me a while but it came through! So they are keeping the dead survivor a secrete... Hmm...♥Boomette♥ 00:15, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

...or, a better reason: they want you to be able to interact with all of the old survivors to see how they would interact if they weren't dead. And if the Passing had one survivor set in stone dead it would majorly piss off every fan that survivor had. People who play Valve games are looking for any opportunity to be pissed off at Valve, so the wouldn't have one person permanently dead. Log Out 00:24, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Ya ok now it is making sense. I just cant wait intill 12 tonight! Im staying up all night so I can download The Passing!♥Boomette♥ 00:26, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

You're all wrong. Ha ha. http://i41.tinypic.com/6pyzao.jpg

That means its only random for this Campaign?♥Boomette♥ 02:00, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Wait so who actually has it? Boomette did you get it? I can't really because last time i checked it wasn't on the PC and I'm at school now. can y'all play the game and tell us if it's random or not? I'm selfish, I know. :(................but i gotta know man! DisMEMBAH 12:31, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

lol u all be wrong. Bill always dies. LegendaryFroggy 01:16, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Will The Passing
Will the Passing (when its released tomorrow) will it always be about scavange and argumants with the original survivors or not.

You will just have to wait and see, and dont forget your signature next time! Thanks.♥Boomette♥ 23:56, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

== Old Survivor Randomly Seleted To Die? ==

This makes no sense... If the old survivor randomly is selected to die, then how will the new DLC for L4D1 work out? Will the survivor who kills themself for the other three just be picked randomly? And if this is all true, then you can just Kiss L4D3 goodbye! Because if the survivor RANDOMLY dies, then VALVe wont know which old survivors to put in it. Unless they make a new set of characters, but if you know VALVe they probily wont. So VALVe's Ideal for random dying kinda just ruined L4D3. And if im wrong then tell me how im wrong? Are they just going to put all 8 survivors in the next game? That wont be possible since one dies, and they are picked at random. VALVe must not want to make a L4D3 very much then.♥Boomette♥ 00:04, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

How would one survivor's death really effect the game that much? Sure, if there was a L4D3, that dead survivor won't appear in it. Just because one dies that means the game is not going to happen? That honestly doesn't make sense.--With care and happiness, Supermutantslayer450' ROAR 00:20, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, listen. Or read... Ya.. Anyways, like since the Survivor dies at random, they cant make a l4d3 with all 7 survivors because we wont know who the real survivor that dies is. But I was talking to a good friend of mine.. well A Wiki friend.. Log Out.. And he kinda put my mind in order again. Now I know that you get to decide who dies, but the comic tells who really dies. So if they do make a L4D3, it wont be messed up now since VALVe desides! Sorry everyone, im really slow on this kinda stuff!♥Boomette♥ 00:23, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Since there is one survivor that dies in canon wouldn't that be the one that just never shows up in this campaign ever? It kind makes sense there. I honestly don't think it'll be a random one gone each time.

Yup and dont forget your SIgnature next time♥Boomette♥ 01:17, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, your confusing me... how does the randomly killed survivor relate to a L4D3? How are you SO sure that the old survivors from 1 & 2 will appear in the game? They could have a whole new set of characters y'know... plus why even talk about L4D3 if you aren't really even sure if there's going to be such a thing? Sorry if I sound rude or mean ^^; emotions don't pass well through typing :P NewbieSim 01:29, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Psh tell me about it bud. But ya.. Why are we even talking about a L4D3 if there is like an 20% chance there will be one?♥Boomette♥ 01:30, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

If you look at the map of evacuation centers in Crash Course, it shows that the most likely setting for L4D3 would be the Midwest. Assuming L4D3 does come out, it would be completely illogical for both groups to go south and then go straight north. Log Out 01:33, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Ya but still... it would be kinda fun...♥Boomette♥ 02:08, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lol, don't even talk about maps in L4D xD... Valve is not really that good with continuity :P. On the map in the only saferoom in Crash Course, the midwest, west, north and east are marked off (with X's)... but then the map in the first chapter of Dead Center shows that it has yet to hit the middle and westward of the country... so suspicions arise hehe NewbieSim 03:12, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Honestly i'd like L4D3 to be in a completely different country...Ravenxeo 12:30, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I see what y'all are sayin', and I agree with both points here.

On one hand, I reaaaaalllly don't think that just because a survivors dies,(random, or any which way) will effect a sequel. Valve would have to be MAD not to come out with another L4D game. Well, unless they pull a Hal Life and leave us hanging in the middle of it.

On the OTHER hand, Boomette has a good point. All this random survivor deaths being made canon will DEFINITELY confuse fans. Hell, I'm confused about the whole thing. But, my advice is this: play the new campaign, enjoy it, mourn the death of a survivor, and move on. Once more content comes out, I'm positive we'll feel less confused. I'm sure whatever Valve throws at us next( WHERE THE *blam* IS HALF LIFE EPISODE 3!?!?!) will suprise, enlighten, and delight us.

Stay Frosty y'all DisMEMBAH 12:40, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

What time
What time exactly will this be coming out (Xbox 360) cause im staying up all night till its out! Johnlmonkey 00:31, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Its midnight release! Just dont get on xbox intill 12:01 so it can update. Thats what im doing! And HIGHFIVE FOR XBOX! With Love♥Boomette♥ 00:33, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Haha *hifive*. But are you sure cause most of the times ive stayed up for dlc it took until 5 am and im pissing myself im so excited! Johnlmonkey 00:36, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

well its a 50/50 chance I gotta take. But hey remember this: You wont be the only one waiting until 5 am! And hey you should add me on xbox and we should go online at 11:30, go into a party and wait! My Gamertag is: xGREENCATx Just if you send the invite, send a message with your WIKIA name with it please so i wont get confused. Oh and PS: I CALL ROCHELLE! With Love and who is super exicted about the passing, about to faint, *faints* ♥Boomette♥ 00:40, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Lol my wikia name and gamertag are the same and I CALL NICK! Johnlmonkey 00:42, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Haha! Ok, well im probily going to get on xbox for 5 minutes, if you wana send your invite now then go ahead. Ps: Is it 7:46 PM where you live?With Love ♥Boomette♥ 00:46, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Actually I'm confused. Will it come out tonight or tomorrow night? Log Out 01:36, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

But midnight in what time zone??? Because it makes a big difference if it 12:00 eastern time or 12:00 pacific time

Valve HQ is located in Washington state, so it would be released Pacific time. Log Out 01:46, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Either 11 Tonight or 12 tonight♥Boomette♥ 01:47, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I'm new to wiki and all so I don't know how to create a new section (if someone could do that for me and/or explain how I'd appreciate it) but I'd like to point out that in the screenshot with nick and the golf clup that looks A LOT more like rochelle than zoey. I'm saying this because I zoomed in and the shirt was too pink. Also, her skin look a bit more... African-American than zoey's.BoomahBill 02:33, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

For the record, if you want to make a new section use Heading 2. As for the image, I zoomed in a lot and at first you seemed to have a point, but after closer inspection you see the white undershirt Zoey has, and she's got long sleeves. Maybe the different shade of Pink is just a lighting thing, as the screenshot seems to have been taken in a well-lit area (to me, anyways) Welcome to the wiki! Log Out 02:41, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

BoomahBill that is Zoey... I zoomed in, shes white with a Bright Red jacket with sleeves holding a hunting rifle. Hmm wounder who that could be?♥Boomette♥ 02:54, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm DYING to play The Passing! Sorry I don't know how to use this wiki thing very much :s I hope I'm using it right.. xD - RikkuHoraiji 04:02, April 22, 2010 (UTC) 12:00AM (EDT)

is it out yet? I didn't see it on the marketplace.BoomahBill 07:03, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I was just finished checking it! A lot of people told me it would be out in 15 minutes, 15 minutes ago! xD Its not out just yet sadly, but the trailer is! It's hilarious too. - RikkuHoraiji 07:08, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

It's out on the Xbox 360 now. (Bloodshed269 10:45, April 22, 2010 (UTC)Bloodshed269)

does ANYONE here have it for the PC? whats taking them so long?!

CURRRSSE YOOOOU XBOX USERS!!!!DisMEMBAH 12:43, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Why did I buy it on Pc not xbox.....510 oh yeah Fireside

THANK you Fireside. finally, someone who understands. I though I would have to go to Oprah for this one. Keep us updated y'all PC users! DisMEMBAH 12:59, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

== Trailer ==

The trailer can be seen here.

Hope it helps!JTFR21 08:12, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

That trailer made my day.Dalekdude101 12:12, April 22, 2010 (UTC)Dalekdude101

Shouldn't someone add this to the External links..? Ravenxeo 13:51, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Out on XBOX Live
The Passing is now available on XBOX Live 219.76.173.38 09:19, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I don't see it.BoomahBill 09:22, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802454108d4/ 219.76.173.38 09:24, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Im gonna have a heart attack from excitement. Thank you.BoomahBill 09:30, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

*HUGE PASSING SPOILERS!*
Well I played The Passing (I played it 10 times to be exact 6 if you don't count me just skipping to the last chapter) anyway when I saw Bill dead I just restarted the whole thing over and played it again hoping to see someone I don't like *cough* Zoey *cough* in the place of Bill. I'm just going to say this, the rumor about the death being randomly picked is just a rumor.72.191.167.12 11:48, April 22, 2010 (UTC)(first time guys, I don't really know how to do proper signatures and what not.)

Where is his body exactly cause i cant seem to find it :/ Yupimvince 12:09, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

The Passing isn't out for PC Yet. Great. Dalekdude101 12:14, April 22, 2010 (UTC)Dalekdude101

I'm with ya there Dalek. I'll have to see if its there when I get home.

woah, woah, wait a sec, youre saying BILL is the one that dies? Dead, finished, period? Its not randomly chosen?!! A bit of my soul just died right there. :*(

"Chhhrist I'm gonna miss that sonnova bitch." DisMEMBAH 12:17, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

His body is not that easy to miss, as soon as you exit the elevator head straight towards the generator, look to your right and you should see a door way with a trail of blood.72.191.167.12 12:20, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Found him,thanx!Yupimvince 12:25, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I have taken a picture of Bill's death. It is on his article. I have also updated each old survivor page with information regarding, i.e. Bill's death, and Louis's legs. Please continue to edit with this information in mind. scottendo 12:38, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Oh my GOD! Are they ALL going to die!? NuDe (sorry for my sign, I couldn't log inn dunno why) 84.249.233.167 12:45, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

BILLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

why Bill?!!? you were awesome man!!!! That take no shit attitude, that cool green vest, the hilarious conversations with Francis......... I'm gonna miss you buddy! :*(

R.I.P.

BILL

DisMEMBAH 12:49, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I uploaded an image showing the 3 survivors in The Passing. Someone should place it on The Passings page. A link to it is here: http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/File:HNI_0043.JPG scottendo 13:01, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

That....is....god. Good to finally see them again.(well, in left 4 dead 2) I shall take the liberty of placing it on the passing page. y'all good with that? DisMEMBAH 13:36, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Poor Bill :( R.I.P.

I played it about 4 times now o-o I didn't hear Ellis talking about Zoey like others said he would :s I kinda wish there was more of a story or a little cutscene to it xD Nonetheless, The passing is epic o.o - RikkuHoraiji 14:53, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

For Ellis to talk about Zoey she has to be the one who meets you at the start. Then he'll talk about loving her a few different times. Nick or Rochelle will also tease him about liking Zoey. The ending might even have Zoey like him back when she talkes about her friend Ellis. If it's Francis at the start, the romance won't happen. DeeDee1 19:15, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Chapters
To all those who have played The Passing, kindly share with us what the names of the chapters are. JTFR21 12:34, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Riverbank,Underground,& Port Yupimvince 12:36, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Taking The Passing info requests
I guess that's what I can call it. But anyway, I'd like to prevent a traffic flow and keep this page protected for a little while longer. If Xbox-ers have any info that they can't live without it being on the page, put it up here and I'll put it up. I can't promise it'll go up immediately as I'm at school, but I'll get to it as soon as I can. Also it would help if someone could make pages for the chapters. So yeah, let's keep trivial information off the page for now and just focus on the important information. Jo the Marten ( Shriek )  ಠ_ಠ  15:29, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Rochelle says she'll give Francis a kiss if he helps them! VaultGuru 15:41, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

And he thinks that Coach is her dad too! VaultGuru 15:42, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Me again! At the end of the chapter Zoey may say "Remember, Soylent Green is people!" VaultGuru 15:53, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

In the beginning of "The Passing" I heard Rochelle and Francis talk. Rochelle said "If you lower the bridge, I'll tell you how old I am!" Francis replies "Okay, the bridge is lowered. Really, this is as far as it will go!" Rochelle then says "I want to call you an asshole, I really do." And thats all I remember from it :s I'll post more later! - RikkuHoraiji 20:52, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Ellis and Zoey
I just played the final chapter again and Ellis says that he's a "nervous wreak" and Nick says that he can watch him take her in. So, Nick likes Zoey too! VaultGuru 15:38, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Nick was just teasing Ellis cause he knows Ellis likes her. 68.192.21.209 15:48, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

xD I wonder what Zoey says about Ellis when the first LEft For Dead DLC comes out -RikkuHoraiji 20:54, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Nothing as the L4D1 DLC is set before the passing, she would'nt have met him yet Fireside

Francis hating Nick
hahaha i honestly cannot believe he hates someone he just met I mean he literally just met Nick and then he decided to hate him why is this and it seems Rochelle is jealouse of Zoey

Sign your posts and Nick all out insults Francis at the start on the campaign sometimes. VaultGuru 16:44, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

At first I thought those two would become friends. I guess not.. xD - RikkuHoraiji 21:08, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Hahaha Rochelle now hating everything.
hahaha OMG Rochelle hates everything including Francis vest hahaha I cant believe this. and Bill appeared in The Passing and I am able to play as Zoey in Hard Rain

Sign your post, Rochelle does not hate everything and no-one cares about how you downloaded mods for your game. VaultGuru 17:11, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

now hold on a second there Vault, I think he/she is talking about the video that came out when the passing was released hear? it seems she does hate stuff, inculding Francis's vest.DisMEMBAH 12:16, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Well yeah, but everyone hates things and the guy who didn't sign his post just made the assumption that Ro is going to become a Francis clone. I think Vault is right. Log Out 00:18, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

How to get The Passing?
Do you start the game and the a download will start or do you have to download from a website or how does it work? Thanks for answers! DeikO 17:40, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

It isn't out for PC yet. Jo the Marten ( Shriek )  ಠ_ಠ  17:45, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Article is amazinly lacking in detail!
Since it's out, the lock on the article is hurting it more than helping (though locking it in the first place seemed a bit overkill, since the spam could have easily been reverted). Vetis 17:51, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Look Who Makes a Small Cameo!


http://destroyedcontroller.blogspot.com/2010/04/frank-wests-left-4-dead-2-cameo.html

Little shout out to Dead Rising. FaythOfFenrir 19:02, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Hah! I'm glad I'm not the only one that saw that. Emailed Chet about it just now to congratulate him and the rest of the Valve staff on a job well done. ChazFox 23:25, April 22, 2010 (GMT)

Actually, I found it on a blog. My computer has been having issues with steam lately. So I don't have the passing. Yet. FaythOfFenrir 23:00, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Which time?
Which time is The Passing going to be released?DeikO 19:15, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

The Passing's poster...?
Who keeps changing The Passing's poster to the one with Francis, Louis and Bill in the background? Zoey is alive, Bill is dead, Francis and Louis are alive too, leave it as the poster with Francis, Louis and Zoey please

I made it so it changes every so often like it did on the blog. Guess I should change it to just Bill being gone. Though is this how it is when you load the game? Jo the Marten ( Shriek )  ಠ_ಠ  19:31, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

When you load the game it has all four in the background

You've got to be kidding me.
I get home from along day at school, and the passing isnt out for PC Yet. How beautiful.Dalekdude101 20:05, April 22, 2010 (UTC)Dalekdude101

Edit: :OOO!!!! It says "Updating 31%" !!! I smell DLC! :D

gnome
i hate the fact we have to wait six weeks to get the gnome avatar award,i died a shitloadof times to rescue him from city 17 outskirts, send him into space and run through the carnival with him. why valve why, they should make it automatic if you've already rescued him from both games smish34

...no, not really. I think it's completely fair. Log Out 00:19, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

shout for Nick Coach Rochelle and ellis it doesnt work.
everytime in The Passing I press the button down to make my survivor say Look or look at this its not working why is this?

Spoilers!!!
BILL REALLY IS DEAD.

OH IT IS SAD DAY!

R.I.P Bill. You will be missed :'(

I kinda wonder how he died though. I hope they make a small cutscene or something in the first L4D DLC - RikkuHoraiji 21:01, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Edit: You can find his body after exiting the elevator in the third chapter. Close to the generator there will be a door with a trail of blood leading to him. :( - RikkuHoraiji 21:03, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

R.I.P. Bill...you were my favorite L4D1 survivor. D': Dragon1300 22:33, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

RIP Bill...You deserve 53,595 medals 24.87.4.53 01:09, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Why they didnt make it like, that you can TRY to defib Bill, then everyone would have been like: OMGZOMG LOOK HIAR, HEI EWRY1! ME CAN DEFIB BILL! OMGZOMGROFLMAO ME 0WNS! You start to defib, you shock Bill, bar goes full, but nothing. You can't revive him. Then me is sad :'( ŊυĐε 16:58, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

The Passing is out for PC!
HOWEVER... servers are being hammered, so keep steam open for it to update your L4D2 files. :3 (currently 45% done according to steam) Sera404 21:09, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Its been downloading for me for a half hour and its only at 5%

it took me like 5 minutes for xbox Smish34 22:19, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Either the servers have kicked the bucket, or Australia hasn't gotten it get, because I've been watching for two and a half hours and nothing at all. Dartigen 22:45, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Didn't they have to censor half the game for Australia? Maybe their doing that for the DLC too? I'm just guessing :s - RikkuHoraiji 23:43, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe for people with the censored version, but I bought mine from the UK, so it's uncensored. Maybe the release time is different based on location? Anyone in the UK, Europe...? Dartigen 23:48, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

I brought mine in Canada, but it came out at 6AM thursday morning. I was awake all night waiting for the DLC... xD - RikkuHoraiji 23:53, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Louis Wounded
Louis is wounded at the third chapter of The Passing. I know this probably wasn't worth making a new section but do you think that means he would become an infected too? It could be that he was hit by a tank, or hit something. But what if he was bitten? - RikkuHoraiji 21:14, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

After everything they've been through, I think all of them are pretty much immune, if not carriers at the least. So, I very much doubt it. Sera404 21:31, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Very true. xD I think they made Louis hurt so they won't be able to completely join the team or something like that.. - RikkuHoraiji 23:02, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Cooperative Competitive mode
Sooo... what happened to it?. Is it going to be another mutation?.

I'm a bit disappointed about the new "modes". Don't take me wrong, mutations are nice (more so if they don't disappear after the week they debut and we can play them whenever they want), but I was looking forward to a cooperative mode plus a full new one. The cooperative is nowhere to be seen (unless they were refering to Realism Versus, which would be lame), and the new one is just tweaks here and there :( 88.22.48.69 22:49, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Do you think we should keep track of the Mutations on the L4D Wiki? - RikkuHoraiji 23:00, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

well they said more than one mode, and mutation only counts as one so whats up with that?Smish34 23:33, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Every week the Mutation changes. This week its "Realism Versus Mode" and the next week it will be something else. Apparently they planned over 20 of them. I thought they ment more then one mode too, I wasn't expecting this.

I also heard there will be a single player Versus as a mode.. I'm not sure though. Kinda looking forwerd to that one xDD - RikkuHoraiji 23:39, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

The one next week is called 'Bleed Out'. Anyone hazard I guess as to what it might be?Captainium 22:31, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Midnight Riders Bus!
I JUST saw the Midnight Riders bus drive by! Right on the other side of the fence by the cement truck, after going through the mud in the (I think) 2nd chapter of The Passing!!! o_o - RikkuHoraiji 01:46, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yep. That happens. I'm not sure what the odds are but I think it's a little less than 50/50 chance. Log Out 01:19, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Oh No!
Bill is dead!.... I REALLY need to find a defibrillator... Or at least know how it happened =/ - Umbreon0 22:15, April 22, 2010 (UTC)

Digital Comic Book and L4D1 DLC
Any ideas as to when those are coming? FaythOfFenrir 02:49, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

I was told that the L4D1 DLC was to come a month after "The Passing" but I highly doubt that. - RikkuHoraiji 02:50, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

According to Valve time, I'd say 2 months. Possibly 2 and a half. I can't believe I was wrong about the randomized dead survivor. Poor Bill... Log Out 07:25, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

I played with Chet over this weekend on Xbox Live.......He said there is no offical word when.......but it could be anywhere from 20 to above pages. But he said this like everything from Valve is subject to change so dont quote me on this or anything.JokersFlame 10:56, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

I cannot WAIT for that comic to come out...as well as the new DLC.y'all are probably feel pretty shocked now(including me), just wait till Valve blows our minds with that filler info. DisMEMBAH 12:15, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

So someone just accused me of lieing while not signed in. If you want check my XBL profile to see that I am in fact friends with L4D2_DEV 1 (AKA Chet).

My conversation is here http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1237628 JokersFlame 20:08, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Question: How are we going to recieve this comic? Is it gonna download in steam? Posted on the blog? Emailed? 70.237.109.30 09:30, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Left 4 Dead 1 campaign survivors talk.
I can see this talk when the left 4 dead 1 campaign is out.

Bill: To cross the bridge one of us is gonna have to die.

Zoey: (feeling scared) What.

Bill: Zoey there is one big Tank that needs killing and the other infected and 1 of us will have to deal with the tank alone.

Louis: Bill why you saying this man its not like you.

Bill:: Nobody can keep on going son.

Francis: I dont know what yer mean.

Zoey: I dont wanna do this killing ourselves thing bill why cant we just stick together.

Bill: I'm sorry Zoey but we cant get across that bridge wthout one of us dying.

Francis: NO WE CANT DO THIS.

Zoey: (crying) OH GOD I'LL DO IT. I'LL DIE.

Louis: ZOEY NO DONT DO THIS.

Bill: No people am doing it.

Zoey: NO BILL please dont (still crying)

Francis: (scared) (sigh) let....... let him do it.

Zoey and Louis: WHAT.

Francis: am sorry guys that tank is getting closer and we have to make it across that bridge with only 3 of us.

Bill: am sorry guys i'll miss yer.

Zoey: BILL DONT DO THIS PLEASE. (Crying)

Louis: Yeah man bill please dont die for us. come with us.

Bill: (Sigh) am sorry guys............ this is it.

The 3 of them all make it to the bridge they watch as bill shoots the tank but he misses his shots and the tank pummels bill to death.

Zoey: BIIIIIIIIIIIIIL.

Louis: NOOOOOOOOOOO BILLL.

Francis: Bill. SHIIIIIIIIIT.

Louis falls and hurts his leg bad.

Louis: AAAAAH.

Zoey: OH GOD. I cant believe this has happened why Bill.

Francis: (upset) shit shit shit DAMMIT.

Louis: DAMN TANK IF I SEE ANOTHER TANK ITS DEAD.

Zoey: We'll get revenge. I now HATE TANKS.

Louis: me too.

Francis: WE HATE TANKS.

No New Sound?
So I've played through the campaign about 3 or 4 times since it came out (single player every time, sadly not allowed to play online except with one friend whose game currently isn't working), and for some reason each time I play it there's no new sound. The only new audio is the new Midnight Riders' song, but there's no new audio for any of the L4D2 Survivors (I had to go into sound files to listen to the interactions/new Keith stories) and the original Survivors never say anything whenever I see them. Could there have been a problem with the download (the sound files are all there, is there something keeping them from being used in game?) or what? I've seen a couple people complaining about it on the steam forums, but there doesn't seem to be any actual answers given. Any ideas/solutions over here? [edit to add in sig] Wave Maker 00:30, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Its a bug only in the PC version. I heard tuning off add-ons or something will help...But I have no idea what that means.JokersFlame 01:14, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Turning off add-on support? 219.76.173.38 02:44, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

I'm having the same problem, it's really hurting the game experience. Ldude893 02:54, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

How Bill's Death Most Likely Played Out
Bill's death is not as dramatic or heroic as many people want to believe. In fact, I'm sure it went a little something like this. *cue dramatic memory transition*


 * Bill, Zoey, Louis, and Francis are on their way to the generator, when they hear the Tank cue go off

ZOEY: OMG TANK FUCK U AI DIRECTER!!!!

LOUIS: SHIT I'M BLACK

FRANCIS: I HATE TANKS

BILL: SO LONG NEWBS IMMA GO RUN 4 POINTS!!!! *runs away from the group*

ZOEY: NOOB GET BACK HEAR OR WE VOTEKICK!!!

BILL: LOL IMMA GET TO SAFE ROOM HAVE FUN WITH TANK


 * Tank beats the shit out of Bill


 * Tank killed Bill

BILL: OMFG DEFIB ME DEFIB ME

FRANCIS: LOL NO


 * VOTE: Kick player: Bill

Current vote count: [\/][\/][\/][X]

BILL: U GUISE SUCK FUK U


 * Bill has left the game


 * MatthewLepore 00:26, April 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * What a kick in the balls for any Bill fan... Fadm tyler 01:40, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

First of all tyler is right and that is not funny nor how it happened.

Wow, bravo ladies and gentlemen. Of course it's not how it happened. It's a joke based upon a normal game of L4D. I for one, am I a huge fan of Bill, and was saddened by his death, but to feel so strongly about the death o f a video game character is stupid.

That reminds me... I was playing L4D2 expert camp, I accidentaly shot someone (just a little bit), and then, wow, what a surprise! Russian guy starts kick vote against me! ŊυĐε 16:54, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Tell me about it, was doing Port Scavenge and I grabbed a gas can and it went to overtime and a guy got charged so I started pouring. He tried to votekick me because I didn't want to lose so he could still have full health. Luckily it didn't go through and he ragequit. Log Out 01:17, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Trivia: Coach's lambda logo
Masterlegodude 13:42, April 25, 2010 (UTC)Masterlegodude

"There is a tear on Coach's shirt, which resembles the lambada logo."

Silly editor! That's not a lambda logo, that's part of his shirt's collar!

Secret Message in "Save Me Some Sugar"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1dPLlVy9X8

Found this while on Youtube. Apparently the Midnight Riders also mourn Bill. FaythOfFenrir 23:24, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Nice find, kinda creepy, ha ha 79.73.181.228 12:03, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Five goddamn dollars.
I don't think Nick's comment (conman to conman) about the $5 charge for the under the river tour relates to the $7 Xbox users having to pay for The Passing. Unless this line's an Xbox-exclusive line (which it's not) or Rayford's a stab at Redmond, Microsoft HQ, I feel this isn't a reference. Judacris 01:11, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

No. It isn't. In fact, I don't want to be rude but anyone who thinks that IS a reference to the cost must have some form of mental defficiency.

Lines for the other campaigns?
I swear to God i never heard:

Ellis' line about him shitting out a squealing worm(when he's black and white)

Several lines in Dead Center

Ellis comenting Coach's plan in DC2 that it'll be like a music video, they'll run to a heli while there's a guitar solo

Rochelle getting a bigger chanse of saying something

Some new generic lines.

Did they add them in The Passing, or i was so blind since November 19?

1337_n00b 18:07, Apr 25, 2010