Talk:The Smoker

Ridiculous
Denkkar 03:04, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

It makes me laugh that this is a "featured" article considering how inaccurate it is. I was going to simply fix it when I realized I'd have to re-write the whole thing, and I've already done this in the Tactics section anyway.
 * 1) Getting noosed does not require teammate intervention if you are quick since you can shoot the smoker before losing the ability to wield a weapon
 * 2) Smoke getting in the way of your shot? We got uzi's and shotguns for crying out loud. Accuracy by volume anyone?
 * 3) The best time to attack the smoker is to wait for it to attack your teammate so you can follow the tongue back to it. LOL. So not playing on your team.
 * 4) Complete omission of effects of melee on teammate, tongue, and smoker
 * 5) You can chat over voice comm loud and clear while getting choked... would be more awesome if you couldn't tank at all like the article says, but it doesn't work that way
 * 6) "Look for places where the smoker would choke someone". The randomness of the spawn makes this of little value. You are better off just listening for coughing and keeping a buddy nearby.
 * I only "featured" it because I needed a literally random article to feature, just to test out how it would look in the layout. But yeah, it was pretty bad :( takua108 12:30, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Good to know there was a method behind the madness. Sorry, I didn't follow the "wiki way" and flamed. I just felt that frustrated. Denkkar 00:00, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Mutated height?
I've noticed that the Smoker seems very tall. Could this be a mutation, or was the human he used to be just a tall guy?

He's just skinny, actual smoking can severely reduce your weight, so stay away from those cigarettes, kiddies! 69.12.204.67 03:31, 1 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Perhaps the designers made him tall intentionally so that not only will he stand out (because let's face it, if he wasn't tall and had smoke around him, we wouldn't notice him during a horde attack) and possibly so that if a survivor was constricted, another survivor could kill the smoker from the front, i.e. Shoot over the survivor's head. -- Five Dog ( Talk ){ Updates } 21:58, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Pictures
Hey, can somebody get some screenshots of the Smoker? It would be nice to have one of the Smoker strangling somebody, and maybe even the cloud of smoke the Smoker leaves behind when it's killed. If you have one you're considering adding, but you're not sure about, feel free to show me. - §tigma-231 ¤ ৳ here's a  hole  in my neighbourhood [ talk  ][ cont ] 17:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Here, I uploaded this one.

Another tactic when playing as a Smoker
Pulling Survivors that are very high up (eg; top of the elevator shaft on No Mercy Finale) while standing down below will result in not only them being separated from the group, but a very decent chunk of fall damage. Different ledges may produce different results however, and result in them hanging from ledges rather than being pulled down.

-- Generally this is as a result of falls that do not prompt the survivor "oh shi- i'm falling" response already (like the rooftop on Map3 of No Mercy that the survivors must cross). Learning these ledges and how to get people down from them is an integral smoker strategy to quickly incap survivors. Corinthian-blue 00:59, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Bill look-alike?
hey im probably being stupid but doesanyone notice the smoker and bill seem similar

im probably wrong but also in the l4d2 trailer at 00:40 a zombie that has a jacket similar to zoey is killed maybe its hinting at the survivors fates
 * they both have cargo pants
 * they both have green jackets and white undershirts
 * bill smokes the smoker is well a smoker

Dude, had 2 say: great comparisons. never really noticed all that. SuperMutantSlayer450

Totemtrouser 07:31, 13 July 2009 (UTC)totemtrouserTotemtrouser 07:31, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Ahhh, I don't think so. I remember reading somewhere that Valve said that they will be still using the Left 4 Dead Survivors later on in the series (probably just to calm down the Pill lovers). Besides, that's just silly... Infected Survivors... Well, it could be an Easter Egg but who knows. Zikkun 13:19, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

eh idk all i know really is that the smoker and bill wear similar clothes and i hope your right cuz i wanna see vavle pull a resident evil and have reaccuring characters but at the same time they cant all survive and it would also be cool to have a boss fight wtih zombie bill Totemtrouser 17:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)totemtrouserTotemtrouser 17:52, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The original four Survivors are supposed to be immune. - §tigma-231 ♠ o  ƒ  my caliber { τalk }{¢ont } 20:42, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

they think they are but maybe they just never changed in the story Totemtrouser 18:53, 16 July 2009 (UTC)totemtrouserTotemtrouser 18:53, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No, I'm pretty sure they're immune. They frequently say they're immune, and judging by everything they've been through...I believe them. - §tigma-231  ♠ o  ƒ  my caliber { τalk }{ ¢ont } 00:01, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

well i thought of something its sorta weird but
 * Francis hates hunters
 * louis hates tanks
 * Zoey hates boomers
 * Bill hates smokers

Could the smoker be a fellow army veteran? Anyway sorta weird that the survivors all hate 1 specific infected--Ill97 19:12, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Smoker disappearing
After a Smoker choked a team mate in the Drains, the Smoker, with his tongue cut, tried to run away to escape. I followed him, while also shooting him then when he climbed down a ladder, he's suddenly gone? Why? Dabrules 12:07, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Only 1 smoker?
Are you sure? I've played a lot of versus games where there have been 2 smokers at once, tho it is quite uncommon as these things go
 * Have you tried that new survival mode downloadble thing?I had 4 smokers on my tail at once,then shortly after,2 tanks,5 smokers and a group of pissed off boomers. You waste my time, motherfucker. 19:19, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

no only one smoker can appear in versus mode it is possible to get more than 2 hunter at once but the rest will spawn one at a timeBigDogW 19:35, 27 July 2009 (UTC)