Talk:The Charger

So this zombie is smaller than a tank same damage as any other special infected? WEIRD. It sounds like this infected isnt much of a problem. --Kirby888 22:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Judging by the video, its one of those infected that gets power from ambush. If you see them charging at you, it would be easy, but if it was like your back or somewhere you didnt notice, it might do large amounts of damage. 01:44, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I wonder if what the acheivments for the charger areTerrifiedToxic I LIKE Cheese 08:43, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe something like the Tank, since the Charger's goal is to knock survivors until the rest of the Infected can start owning the survivors, my guess is that there will be an achievement that you will have to knock a number of survivors in one life, which is quite a challenge since the Charger and the survivors have the same speed. Zikkun 20:38, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually there isn't an achievement for nocking down survivors in one life, but there is an achievement for knocking down all survivors in one charge. Themanwiththeplan 12:53, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Proof of cue
I have a sourse that the charger does have a music cue check the oxm left 4 dead 2 interview on the xbox 360 dashboard--XIII-DARKNESS 18:07, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

OBJECTION!!! Your honor as you can see the Charger does NOT have a music cue. It has music when he pounds ya to the ground like Chris Brown did to Rihanana(I love you Rihanana.) So! I guess your honor that this ABOMINATION (XIII-DARKNESS) IS GUILTY OF CHARGE! That is all --Kirby888 03:54, 26 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm sure I've heard a cue, it's a single, elongated note if I remember.. I'm pretty sure the Spitter has 4 notes and the Jockey will probably have 6 by way of logic, will just have to wait until more is confirmed. SegaFortress 06:30, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

It does HAVE A MUSIC CUE!! its just that when you're playing as an infected, you can't hear your cue but you can hear it being pummeled as a survivor look on the page. It stated (by me) that there is one. 09:30, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

It has music Cue! I had the demo for the pc, i peeked in the sound files, and sound the chargers music cue!

The Chargers Health
I'm Confused about the Health i thought the health was 250 like every other infected not 500--User:TeriffiedToxic Brandy Bub 07:50, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * It was never 250 in first place, when I created the Infobox I wrote down "250+" because that's all we had, we knew Valve said that it will have more HP than the other Special Infected excluding the Witch and the Tank, and we couldn't throw any rumors because this Wiki is not a place for fanon, so I wrote 250+. The 500 should be removed in my opinion, we can't throw speculations just like that. Zikkun 08:27, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

It should be known as 400 plus--Ill97 17:51, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Charger Health ?
I don´t think that the Charger has 10000000 Health, i saw that it takes 100000 shots from the MG to kill him! 30000-400000 Health is more realistic imo!

it died by a one hit with a frying pan........--Kirby888 03:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

It was shot a lot though by the other survivors but still that melee attack was insanely powerful--Ill97 17:58, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

I vas pretty sure I read or heard somewhere that it was 600 and could kill someone on green health on easy mode in 21 seconds. Pretty overpowered, don't ya think?

The smoker can kill someone with one,well placed pull. Don't hear anyone say that is overpowered.

just for info, with all the CC weps in the demo take 2 hits to kill him-- SS4FireFox 14:16, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Charger has 600 health, melee weapons deal 500 damage a hit do the math. There is an achievement for killing a charger when it is charging go try it, just make sure you shoot him a little first.


 * sorry, not to be rude but i've tested this thoroughly, melee weapons do 250, but for some reason it takes 2 hits to kill a charger which has 600... i've tested the damage over 50 different times with a friend playing the charger (i did so because he's the only infected that can be used for definite damage notes, i.e. ya gotta shoot 'em in the ass) so somehow the melee weapons skip 100 hp for the charger... but my point is, melee weapons don't do 500, it's half of that do the math XD. Geomexis 11:02, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

low health
the charger may have like 400009900 health but hes can run 3 times faster than us so dont shit yourself when you see it rushing towards you


 * umm, actually the charger has 600 health... and not to be mean but the second part of that msg was incoherent, please restate what you meant... all the new special infected added are in this video http://www.youtube.com/user/Criken2#p/u/0/fnTiRGv2bT4   oh and please sign your posts Geomexis 15:24, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Keeps charging?
so it keeps running till it hits a wall? thats like a smoker and a tank combined,and how oyuld that work with cliffs, would he charge off the cliff,survivor in tow,or stop just before? hope he keeps going,i wanna kaamakazi--JoeHanSon 20:39, September 6, 2009 (UTC)

ooh, I like that idea. 68.230.92.239 04:13, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

he appears to pick up Ellis and run him into a wall in this video  The Deep 1 02:40, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

When it hit me as Ellis, it then moon walked back carrying me until it hit another wall. Done that a few times, but its random when it happens. --Dwarf Ninjas 21:38, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

KAAMAKAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!of a cliff.Zombie killer 1996

it then moon? what?--JoeHanSon 02:40, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

well he charged me off of the platform were you need to deactivate the alarm in the demo, then over a fence, so yes, he keeps charging over edges, idk about lethal platforms though

A Charger will charge a good 30-40 meters before he stops charging. Walls and static objects,such as dumpsters and poles, are the only thing that will stop him before he travels that distance. Also he will slam a survivor into the ceiling as well as the floor if there is one available where he stops, there is only one lethal platform that I know of: the appartments in Dead Center if he charges of the edge he will die. Themanwiththeplan

There's also a spot in swamp fever where you can charge them into the water, instantly killing them. Tinman888

Another two in Hard Rain - you can charge people off who are standing pier at the start/finale, or near the elevator in the second level. Sometimes the elevator spot only incapacitates them, not sure why. --LethalMezzle 04:17, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

Peectoor
Guys, can we have a gameplay pic? I mean, we have them for Jockey and Spitter, and I'm sure there are enough high quality pics to find a good Charger pic. hi

Not liking the speculation here
Things such as "this Infected looks like X Infected, the virus could have done this and that and changed in this way". Not really a big complaint but, stuff like that based upon a bit of imagination in the trivia section seems a bit.. off. And it's not just on this page either (Spitter-Boomer, Jockey-Hunter, an inference of Bill knowing Francis before the infection, etc). If it was reworded to something like "a few fans believe that" or something along those lines, or maybe some factual info from Valve about design work I guess it would be a little better; if I'm unclear, just being picky or I'm plain wrong, please tell me. :P

Oh and.. so many references to the Tank in there, yet gameplay mechanics-wise the Charger seems more comparable to the Smoker and Hunter. Smoker more so, given the role of splitting up tightly packed survivors. SegaFortress 07:03, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Link please?
"In recent "Scavenge Mode" gameplay videos the Charger seems to be the only infected able to speak saying, "Don't shoot me!" when being shot at." I thought normally it wasn't acceptable to babble about 'that one Youtube video remember!' on Wikis without citing the source. SteveZombie 22:13, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIHAwPhD5P8&NR=1 Seems to be in this video around :30-:31 and :34-:35. I doubt The Charger is really saying "Don't shoot me" though. Sniper Rofl 23:04, October 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * It does sound like it, however he's not even being shot at at that point. :/ SteveZombie 23:07, October 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * It does kinda sound like it, but i doubt he's really saying anything. Just a demonic noise.--Supermutantslayer 450  RO A  R! 23:19, October 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * It sounds ALOT like "Don't shoot me!" and the last one I beileve it was, sounded like "Don't shoot me, please!" Maybe he is trying to communicate and say something like "Line up and stand still so i can kill the lot of ya." He's failing if that's his intention. Anyway, after slowing voice clips down on Left 4 Dead, I found sometimes the common actually talk to each other. It's more like "good morning" and "stay away" kind of things, but they still talk. convos don't make much sense though, so maybe they just lowered the octaves on the charger to the point where it's inchorent. It's possible.

Not half tank
I found proof the Charger can't be a half tank:the foot that's under the enlarged arm has still a shoe on,whereas the other leg doesn't have a shoe on,indicating that his smaller legs has yet to grow,meaning it doesn't change into a tank. It'll probably become a step up from the Tank as it can walk on 2 legs so it can run faster when it's fully mutated.Mr.shadow 11:56, October 10, 2009 (UTC)

Um, the Charger can't wear shoes he has flat feet like an elephant. Themanwiththeplan

Okay you're right that the charger is not half a tank, but not for the reason that you stated. My theory is simply put; the charger is not an under developed tank because the charger's larger arm is almost purely used during his charge and slamming attacks and is only ever used to aid in his movement is when he is climing. The tank on the other hand moves more like a gorilla, and uses both arms and his legs to run, climb and attack. wait, wtf? okay i've done my homework (literally) on the whole "it can walk on 2 legs so it can run faster" thing, if you have 2 legs and compare your running speed to say a dog, what one runs faster, the dog, because it has four legs as to propel itself even faster, plus the wind resistance of something standing upright is more noticeable when compared to something that's leaning forward or lower to the ground. so technically the charger, when fully mutated, would become slower than the tank since the tank "monkey-walks" so he's leaning forward and being closer to the ground... a possible reason the charger can charge so fast might be because of the bluntness of his arm, it seems to act like a wind shield for him, oh and themanwiththeplan, look at the chargers right foot, it does have a shoe, only his left leg is larger, and it's not anything like an elephant's foot, it's more like a form of clubbing and swelling, kinda like his arm... Geomexis 11:16, December 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Regardless of the reason, I think comparisons to the Tank should be entirely removed from the article, besides a possible theory. The way it is now seems to be constantly saying "The Charger was going to be a Tank, but didn't form fully." I think it's pretty clear that the Charger has completely different mutations and abilities. Closest comparison that really can be made accurately is the large arm, but even then, the Charger's arm appears to just be swollen up to an incredible degree, and not formed mainly of muscle like the Tank's arms. Speculation and theories should never be used for the main article. Make it a section of the article, at most.

Speaking.
Link to the video, where the Charger allegedly speaks, please. Edit: No need, but i can guarantee that is not talking! 86.147.178.17 18:40, October 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey, people have mistaken the Common Infected as speaking phrases in Spanish. I think next time they claim to have heard an Infected speak we can safely call BS without wasting our time watching anything. :P SteveZombie 17:17, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

It does add a hint of inspiration to zoey saying: "Oh my god... Mexicans!" in the Left 4 lol video on youtube. --Prof. 18:02, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

First off, I love that video. Second, I agree with steve. Thirdly, they're zombies. They don't talk. They just mostly scream and hit you. TheCreaturenator 16  03:51, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Ahh, the spanish I can agree with, I have the heard the Common's say something that sounds ALOT like Buenos Dias.


 * The only two clips I thought could possibly be misinterpreted as speech were both the male and females' 'rage_at_victim23' files, but even those are gibberish. Not even the 'mumbling' or 'shout' ones make any audible sense. I thought I heard the 'Buenos Dias' one before but listening to all the files, I can't find any that come close. SteveZombie 15:52, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

I think the whole arguement of the Charger speaking is retarded. People, doesn't "Don't shoot me" sound like something someone else would say? Gahh. -_-; Jo the Marten  ♠  ( Shriek )  ಠ_ಠ  17:33, October 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Even if it were something a hostile monster would say, it should be in response to getting shot. Not a random voice clip. Everything points to the speculators being idiots. SteveZombie 17:37, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Can we just agree that NO infected can talk? TheCreaturenator 16  00:31, October 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * If only we could. SteveZombie 02:36, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

It's no talking. In some growls of the Hunter I've heard it say "Your time is now" which is not true. It's just your brain trying to make sense of random growls and grunts and groans they emit. That's how the human brain works.Mr.shadow 10:32, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

Refer to this video.

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That's stupid if you think they can speak, they're infected and now all crazy, not humans

Charger image/render?
Couldn't help but notice you got the game models of the Smoker, Hunter, Boomer and Spitter. Could we have one of the Charger please?

Ideas of what happened to make the charger the way he is
Maybe he got a blister and the infection got on the arm with the blister


 * If that were a valid theory there would be some visual indication it was a blister. SteveZombie 15:03, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

He's not a zombie. He just jacked off too much.

Contradicting sentences
The article says the charger walks like a monkey in one sentence but with two legs in another sentence I am not sure which is right but if someone knows I think it should be editedPlatypuslover171 23:18, November 1, 2009 (UTC)Platypuslover171

If you ever think something like that again, be bold and remove it; just remember that you need to have a valid point before you do so. Hohenstaufen 22:26, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Headshot stuns?
just playing thru the demo today, i got a charger right at the end of the second level and he started charging at me. i scoped with the hunting rifle and headshotted him and it seemed to stun him and halt the charge. anyone else noted something like this?Radishes 07:26, November 3, 2009 (UTC)

New Model
Guys, I'm sorry, I really don't have the time to take on another site on Wikia atm. But this page seriously needs some editing since the new model. Especially at the top of the page, but most of it in general makes little to no sense at all currently.

All I'd really be able to do is remove ~30-40% of the page, and I doubt that'd be particularly helpful. A F K When  Needed  22:30, November 4, 2009 (UTC)

Pic
can we get a charger pummeling pic? the old one is really low quality and with the demo out its shouldnt be too hard--Galaxyguy26 20:59, November 7, 2009 (UTC) oh and btw the charger doesnt use his big arm too run like a monkey, he uses it more like a ram.

Charger spin?
Today, walking down one of the rows to shut off the alarm after the trailer, a charger rammed and grabbed me and passed Nick, who was out of the way. The Charger took a few more steps, pivoted and turned around, kept charging and knocked over Nick who stepped into the way. Anyone else get this? It may have just been a glitch but a friend said he saw something similar.

I saw a Charger do a 180 oncePlatypuslover171 22:32, November 13, 2009 (UTC)Platypuslover171

sorry i ment a figure eight

Chaarrggee!!
Does the Charger do damage depending on how far he bull-rushes someone back? Like how the hunter does extra damage the farther it leaps.

NO.--Galaxyguy26 16:42, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

No, the Charger only does damage when he hits the survivor and when he begins to pummel them. Themanwiththeplan 13:23, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

The only time a charger can do damage to someone during his charge is if he carries someone off a platform and falls, in which case the survivor will take falling damage.


 * the charger does about ten damage to someone if he barrels through them, so the above is wrong, i've incapped 2 people simultaneously by charging them and i missed slightly so he just rammed past them and kept charging. it's actually pretty annoying if it happens to you, but funnier than hell when you're the one doin' it

Repetetive?
read through the article. it was stated atleast three times that the Carger is immune to melee attacks (ie. smacking with gun?) IMO this is repetetive... yeah... EDIT: forgot to sign Veranen 10:13, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

charger had 600 health guage

tank has 3000/4000/6000/8000 health guage

smoker has 250 health guage

hunter has 250 health guage

spitter has 100 health guage

jockey has 325 health guage

witch has 500/1000*2 health guage

common infected has 30/50/90 health guage

boomer/female boomer has 50 health guage

Concept Art
Dude, the original art work for the charger is so scary. For one, he's a charger so how's he gonna charge with those little arms. And the second one; how can he charge in he's on all fours? And the third... my god that is just so fucking scary. I'm really proud of how it turned out in the end, cause if they kept the original design that would just be it for the game. Anyone else agree?

It's really not too frightening. Anyways, you have to understand that the original charger was just supposed to ram you, not carry one off and smash through the others. So for that it wouldn't need large arms. And haven't you ever watched one of those animal documentaries? Plenty of quadripedal animals manage to charge at you.Whachamacallit 02:15, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Alternative Stumbling Method?
I was playing as the Charger a few days ago, and I charged a survivor (I believe it was Rochelle) into a wall on the Parish, the Fourth Chapter. I happened to be near a DOOR, however, and a different survivor opened it and knocked me off of Rochelle. I stumbled as if shot with explosive rounds (which they did NOT have), and was quickly killed. Easily put, I've discovered another way that the Charger can be knocked off a survivor; the opening (and possibly closing) of doors- much like the phenomenon with opening a door on a Witch, I believe. If anyone would care to further test and/or put this information into the article, it would be greatly appreciated.--Umbreon0 23:50, February 23, 2010 (UTC)